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For example, if I talk about "magic", most of you will tell me I'm wrong without even asking me what I mean. You might even insult me.

How common is this? How much of this conversation is actual communication vs just a string of triggering phrases that we react to?

How much of Lemmy is people just barking at their own echo?

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[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Magic isn't real is the default, if you're going to come into a Marxist materialism based area of the internet how can you be so shocked people are like what no magic is bullshit there's no basis for it in material reality

Are you really surprised with how that thread went?

And yeah, that's what most of the internet is, people are anonymous and here to entertain themselves for the most part it's very common for people to not be the most considerate.

Whats the real point of this post? I'm pretty sure you knew all that already, is this just a subtweet?

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[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago

You didn't want to engage unless it was with people who agreed with you. You also wanted to filter the conversation to only people who believed in magic. When I, who met all three criteria for your post but who has moved past magicope replied with a very standard materialist position, you replied with a pithy comment like this post and dipped out firing a "I GUESS YOU DONT WANT TO DISCUSS" over your shoulder as you left. Grow up.

jagoff

[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I am so glad I have no idea what this is about jesse-wtf

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

An edgy kid made an account, got mad when people wouldn't engage with their childish delusions and take them seriously, is now crashing out.

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

If you're going to accuse people of not taking you seriously because you feel that they're not agreeing with you on the concept of magic, and then go on to dismiss them when they ask you to clarify, then you shouldn't expect a fruitful discussion to take place. I fail to see the point of this when you're not giving people anything to engage with.

[–] The_Grinch@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago (23 children)

It's hard to conceive of anything you would likely mean by "magic" that would result in a productive conversation. The fact you don't want to elaborate when asked leads me to believe we're probably correct to have that knee jerk reaction.

[–] The_Grinch@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Looking at your post that started this, multiple people were asking you what you meant by it, and being perfectly patient with you.

To quote purpleworm from that thread "Calling something natural "magic" with no further context to explain that it's a metaphor is obscurantist."

[–] techpeakedin1991@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago

Guy who makes such thought provoking and detailed points as "meh." accuses others of not communicating well. Amazing.

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago

How did I miss this glorious post!

[–] fluffy8192@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

How about "In my experience with psychedelics and meditation I have encountered a mechanic, a way of addressing reality, that, for lack of a better term, I shall refer to as magic"?

Does that float your boat?

That dead mundane point clarified, can we get back to the point of my post?

[–] The_Grinch@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Does that float your boat?

No, not really. You haven't actually told me anything more about what "magic" means to you. From my perspective I'm addressing the crux of your point, because if what I suspect is going on is true, you don't actually have one. Regardless, I'm not diverting from your point if you ignore me, which you're perfectly free to do.

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[–] Busgirl@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago

How is that functionally different than it being the same as your own personal philosophy?

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[–] Busgirl@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago (5 children)

So what do you mean by magic?

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[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago

One thing the science types don't get is that everything is like vibes and shit.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Welcome to literally all human communication

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[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

A classic hexbear moment

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

sometimes the trick even works if you show the audience what you're doing while you do it, like Penn & Teller doing a cup and ball trick with clear cups.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

I like the one where they burn the American flag in a clear cylinder, but they always screw up the trick at the end because the flag isn't actually destroyed.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

You're beginning with an assumption about the majority of people here based on absolutely nothing, I'm inclined to insult you for that alone. You're also talking about a word with several extremely different definitions and not clearly explaining which one you mean, which is a common bad-faith rhetorical strategy and will make anyone familiar with it suspect you're being deliberately evasive and dishonest. The non-supernatural definitions of "magic" are generally accepted and will not provoke a strong negative response from most people, if you meant one of those you'd have no obvious motive to be evasive about it. The obvious conclusion is that you're being evasive about it because you do mean supernatural magic in a literal sense, in which case yes you are verifiably completely wrong. This has nothing to do with "triggering phrases" or how much or little anyone else cares, the problem is you.

[–] XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX@hexbear.net 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

most people on here are redditors at heart who will stoop to any level of bad faith to get upbears. it's how they feed their families

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You just commented on one of my comments insulting me for saying Epstein and Trump shared Melania, admittedly in a nasty way, and then deleted it before I could respond. Sounds like theres a redditor in you too.

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