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[–] zuana@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

RECENTLY?? Did you not see the 2 years of, "Biden incompetent because old, Kamila incompetent because woman" articles? It's blatantly been run by, or at least edited by, conservatives just based on the open front and center messaging. All legacy media is seemly operated by Republicans constantly thrashing the left and empowering the right. Making the left comfortable with openly supporting the fascist right has been their number 1 goal for the last several years.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Theyre asking the questions their fascist masters want them to ask

[–] schema@lemmy.world 87 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (19 children)

The victim blaming is so disgusting. I heard people say shit like "Oh trans people asked for too much". Too much? Like what? Basic human rights? The right to exist?

They really think that if bullies get what they want they would just stop being bullies.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

Trans people wanted to play recreational sports and that was too much for some people to handle.

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I don't know if these people have encountered bullies on the playground

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The NYT's editorial board is the CIA, change my mind.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Has been since forever. Remember when NYT ran an article that Hitler was a changed man after being imprisoned?

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Look, just because he killed millions of Jews and the disabled and gays etc, doesn’t make him a bad person

- the NYT probably

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[–] frazw@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Anti-wokeness can be directly tied to many of society's current problems. So maybe that means the answer is an indirect "yes"?

I mean if people are going to go around thinking and empathizing with others we wouldn't be able to bomb the middle East every 20 years, would we?

[–] verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

every 20 years

I think that's a bit of an understatement. Perhaps every 20 weeks?

sauce

edit: Thanks Obama?

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

But wokeness is something they made up to be a big problem so they could tear it down.

People still don't understand this was an artificially inflated debate.

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[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The evil black lesbians did this (and Biden).

[–] Mniot@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

Whoah how did you type those words that are illegal to say? You must be so brave

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is a great example of Betteridge's law of headlines. Did wokeness leave us worse off? No.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The NYT haven't changed. They've been aligned with corporate greed and neo-conservative goals and attitudes for at least 40 years. Yes you can find individual articles that don't, but editorially they always have.

Though they always presented their image as 'social liberal progressive attitudes' and 'fiscal responsibility with social support', if you look at their actual reporting track record they've helped manufacture consent for almost every US war of the last 30+ years, and have consistently sided with the desires of whatever government is currently in power and fiscal conservative attitudes throughout.

[–] shifty@leminal.space 12 points 2 days ago

I unsubscribed years ago when I finally saw them for what they are.

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

My stance is: you can say what you like, but I am going to judge you by your words.

I can't stand that line of "oooh, you can't say anything these days", it's absolute bullshit.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago (20 children)

I did the thing. I read the transcript (it's a video chat/debate). Most of the woke they talk about hating is the older stuff that is super cringe or feels racist, like "person of color" or micro aggressions. It does cover that the anti-woke crowd is mostly about being openly racist/sexist or getting to say slurs.

The answer here seems to be leaning towards yes. The creations of labels that the people you were labeling didn't even like led to backlash, see Latinx or BIPOC. Coming up with euphemisms to justify removing white people from conferences or panels because there weren't minorities, instead of focusing on the opinions and thoughts represented. The woke crowd created problems that pushed people away that may have mostly agreed with them.

Ultimately it seems like you're opinion of woke and the definition you give it depends on when you became politically conscious. If it was in the 90e and early 2000s, it's a more negative view of the progressive definition of woke. If it was during the Obama years, you think it's more of a maga creation as a way to be more openly racist.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The LatinX stuff is almost entirely manufactured agitprop, just like the CRT shit. Actual Hispanic people do sometimes use a soft "eh" instead of of a hard "o" or "a" for disambiguation and the latinX thing was more an observation and academic discussion of this than any real attempt at prescriptive language. Literally the only people who pushed that narrative were the ones trying to weaponize it.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is the “woke crowd” in the room with us right now or have a few convenient fringe cases been cherry-picked to fit the fascist propaganda narrative?

Those who used woke as a pejorative never did so in good faith, it has always been overt racism.

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I think it began to just mean being respectful of everyone, and aware of what's happening in the world--ie being awake. MAGA blew it up into some kind of militant identity

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The nyt was literally foubded in a fit of reaction. They are always on the wrong side of history.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 19 points 2 days ago

No, but billionaires have, especially the ones that own newspapers.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 13 points 2 days ago

No, the Sociopathic MAGA response to kindness and empathy is the problem.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Cheif Editor hasn't changed since 2016, and he is very conservative, but managing Editor Marc Lacey was appointed in 2022, he's kind of a tech-bro-profiteer type of manager, and in total it hosts about 1,700 writers with varying opinions. For example, 10 months ago they posted a collection of interviews with Fascism historians and experts fleeing the USA.

Basically, they will publish whatever generates the most clicks. The new Buzzfeed.

One thing I will say is the current publisher and owner, Arthur Ochs Sulzberger Jr., inherited the company from a family line who fled the holocaust, and they do seem to consistently appear pro-zionist.

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[–] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

Aren't the "opinions" basically blogs? The NYT started that garbage years ago to farm clicks.

[–] Naich@piefed.world 11 points 2 days ago

No. Trump did. Next question.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Whenever someone posts these ridiculous headlines and doesn't explain what the actual article is about, I find that around 80% of the time, the opinion presented is actually decently-made or more nuanced than initially assumed, and the title is just phrased that way for clicks.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 12 points 2 days ago

In some publications, article authors don't even get to choose their own titles. They write the articles; marketing department writes the titles.

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