The reason for doing so is that we have already met and exceeded all Military objectives
Ok, so you don't need a ceasefire, you need to just fucking leave.
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What Trump has agreed to....
So basically the US lost is what I'm reading here. Not even a ceasefire just a straight defeat.
Look, let Trump save face. Let him gloat that he won. It's better than him bombing innocent people.
Not even a ceasefire just a straight defeat.
Probably why it won't last, or at least violated several times.
Wouldn't be the first time they mask loss
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wait what ahaha seriously? this is going to be the most "we actually lost" victory Trump is going to declare. can't wait for him to call this "deal" (no lmao) a peaceful cessation of power and a success. iran couldn't get more out of this if they tried.
It reminds me of that scene from the newer All Quiet On The Western Front when the diplomats negotiated an end to WWI.
Do we have a source for this?
so we lost lost all progress in limiting irans ability to create nuclear weapons in order to stop them from creating unuclear weapons. Well thats definately all trumped up.
Trump will start to walk back on this the second they sit down and possibly offer "personal gains" they just cant refuse. Iran will just walk out and all this shit will continue.
So this 2 weeks is just them ending it and it's over and we're just going to forget about it because that's how the new cycle works and then this never happened Jesus f****** Christ murica lost again but the billionaires won cuz they made money on this by rug pulling the world's economy why do we live in capitalism so people can do this
Well, I think some good came out of this. Mostly evil, but some good.
I'm looking at (used) EVs seriously now. I'm betting a lot of other people are also trying to move to EVs after the nth price shock in x years. This one went at least as bad here as the start of the Ukraine war.
Also there are now politicians in Germany initiating discussions about restarting some of the nuclear plants if possible. My own country sadly isn't too progressive on these issues, most people want shale rock to be brought back rather than additional wind turbines being built, since there were some points during the winter where there was no wind when it was really cold and electric prices shot through the roof.
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Mission Accomplished, part 2
I don't think Trump would agree to #6. However, Trump could explain to Iran that ending sanctions would enable Iran to rebuild. #2 and #5 require explanation. Trump would probably agree to letting Iran having sovereignty over the Strait of Hormuz, but they would have to keep it open. Iran would have to agree to any UN resolution banning it from developing a nuclear bomb.
The ubiquitous two more weeks.
What bothers me is that the Iranians seem to take this bait literally without being too critical. They're basically saying that they're ready to open the strait right away for negotiations to happen, even when Trump bombed their country during the previous ones. I think they will come to regret this.
Take the bait? Look, playing chess with a pigeon is difficult. Given the terms listed out, someone took bait, but I don't think it was Iran.
Maybe Iran will commit to the ceasefire in the same way Israel committed to the Gaza ceasefire?
Other way around. Israel will commit to this ceasefire like they committed to the Gaza ceasefire.
Yes someone needs to warn the Iranians that this administration doesn't always negotiate in good faith, they're clearly not aware of that possibility.
What do they have to lose though? The moment the US starts bombing again the missiles start to fly. It’s tit for tat. That’s been their strategy this whole time. I don’t think they expect the US to take negotiations seriously at all.
I do however think Iran wants to appear reasonable to the rest of the world. Under the ceasefire, they still expect other countries to coordinate with them to get ships through. That was already happening prior to the ceasefire but now it’s clear that’s what they expect from everyone. They’re forcing the world to acknowledge Iranian sovereignty over the strait which is a pretty serious win if they can keep it.
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Well, it's still a bloodthirsty imperialist...
TACO!
Even if it's open for a couple of weeks, no ships will sail, because the insurance companies won't cover until the war is fully over, and without insurance they can't dock anywhere or do anything.
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