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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 23 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Not sure who still needs to hear this, but the Republican party are traitors to the United States of America.

They've abdicated their Congressional duties and signaled that they are fine watching this country crash and burn to give a single man the power of a king.

They aren't going to remove him.

Want him removed? Give Dems the House and Senate.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago

Eyup. I often write here that citizens respect the constitution, patriots defend it, and traitors violate it. In the us anyway.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago
  1. It won't be used.
[–] Hayduke@lemmy.world 20 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

What to know about the 25th amendment? It is not going to happen for Trump. That’s all there is to know.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Actually it just might. Republicans need to drive down the blue vote before the midterms. Voter suppression measures aren’t enough. Trump keeps threatening to die but hasn’t. If they remove him before the midterms, it could remove the motivation for dems to show up.

They may just feed Trump to his own leopards.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's more likely that the military will assassinate him than that Republican politicians will betray him.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Or a dark cabal poison him, etc

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago

But but but this time is different!

[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 23 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

This article should be titled "Five people have recently tweeted about the 25th Amendment"

One of them is Anthony Scaramucci. Why the hell do people think we need to hear anything from him?

[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

He had one whole Scaramucci to do something, and he didn't.

[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 1 points 5 hours ago

Well based on the presidents actions, all governance is done over social media... maybe they're trying to follow suit?

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 61 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

~~Could~~ constitute war crimes

Blowing up a school and murdering 168 schoolchildren is absolutely a war crime. Journalists need to grow a spine and stop trying to spread uncertainty by soft-pedaling this shit.

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

For that you need journalists who get paid by someone else than Bezos or Ellison. Something that does not exist, as Pichai (Google) and Nadella (Bing) censor the search results in a way, so they never see any light of day.

[–] voidsignal@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

No they need to tell the story from all point of views. Don't you ever think about the kid's shooters mental state? /s

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

We could possibly hurt Trump's feelings by calling him a child rapist charlatan war criminal. We need to consider his feelings as well.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 60 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (5 children)

I keep reminding people that the 25th Amendment is not the solution here, because it requires a higher bar to enact than simply impeaching the guy. You need to have the VP and half the cabinet on board to trigger it, but then the President gets his office back by simply telling Congress "Nah, I'm good". But then if the VP and cabinet still insist, it would take a 2/3 vote of both houses to trigger.

Impeachment requires no Cabinet officers, and only a majority of the House (but still 2/3 of the Senate to convict).

It would be fitting, though, if for all the dumb, impeachable shit he's done, the thing that finally did it was swearing in a tweet on Easter....

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

One rebuttal I've heard in a previous discussion of this is that Congressional Republicans might have more appetite for removing him for "medical incapacity" than "high crimes and misdemeanors" because it allows the party to save face.

[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 34 points 9 hours ago

That would be something. Raping a whole bunch of kids, and women and countries and businesses is fine... but they draw the line at swearing on Easter...

Christians are fucking strange.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

It doesn't seem like there's an especially substantial call for the 25th Amendment, buuuuuut the 25th isn't strictly a downgrade to impeachment:

  • First, yes, impeachment is only 50% House, 66.7% Senate. Boom, out, donezo. Taking the numbers alone without any other context, that's easier than VP, majority of department heads, 66.7% Senate, 66.7% House (which is even more far-right than the Senate).
  • However, when invoking the 25th, the VP and a majority of department heads are the ones who initiate the proceedings, and there's an active, visible struggle for power within the Executive Branch.
  • If the cabinet were to effectively throw a coup (because let's be honest: none of the ghouls in Trump's cabinet give a flying fuck about his ability to execute the law and would not be in it for the betterment of the US), then it gives a major swing in credibility compared to just a House impeachment. This is especially true because Section 4 has never been invoked.
  • I would argue for this reason that, while removal of Trump by Congress via impeachment is functionally impossible, public opinion would swing wildly if Trump's cabinet started 25th Amendment proceedings, and it also puts the initial onus on Trump to establish that he's capable rather than the onus on Congress to establish that he's not (or rather, that he committed "high crimes and misdemeanors").
  • Thus, you can maybe swing for the fences with the 25th if you can convince enough of Trump's cabinet that Trump is a sinking ship (and thus Vance becomes POTUS, debatably in his own self-interest). Impeachment isn't overcoming the numbers game, but the 25th could (just potentially) change the numbers.
  • It'd be divide-and-conquer: the Democrats all want Trump out of office ASAP (obviously, because they're sane), while the Republicans in the House and Senate would be reckoning with siding with Trump or siding with his cabinet (and whoever their supporters are) – all while the general public bleeds remaining faith in Trump as even his cabinet are challenging his fitness. In an impeachment trial, it would just be "Democrats or Republicans" to the Republicans.

TL;DR: The argument for the 25th is that, if you can get the ball rolling, it might actually be possible compared to impeachment proceedings which currently, inarguably, are not.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 12 points 7 hours ago

Bingo.

Vance is going to want to be seen as leading the coup, not being handed the job. But it's not happening for another 10 months. First, he needs a new Congress, one who is already itching for impeachment. And if he's waiting for Congress, he's going to wait another three weeks: so long as he only takes half of Trump's term, he remains eligible for two full terms himself.

Vance will exercise Section 4 of the 25th after January 20th, 2027.

[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Impeachment is a political tool, and doesn’t change anything unless removed. They won’t do that.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)
[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No he didn't. The senate voted not to convict.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago

Impeached by the house, acquitted by the Senate.

[–] HarneyToker@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

AND the 25th will work even less effectively, did you read the above comment?

[–] areakode@riskeratspizza.com 19 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Mark my words, the 25th amendment won't even be considered until January 20, 2027. After that point, the remainder of the term is a freebie for Vance because he's still eligible for 2 full terms.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

What you are ignoring us that the new Congress will be in place by then, and as long as the election isn't ratfucked the Democrats will probably gain a slim House majority. This means not only that the Democratic Speaker will be third in line for the Presidency, but also that the Democratic House (and the Senate)will have to approve whoever Vance picks as his VP.

So, they may pull the trigger* early if they don't think the Congressional election is in the bag

*= Hey, FBI, that's only a metaphor....

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 3 points 7 hours ago

Vance is going to need that new, impeachment-ready Congress in place before his coup, or his coup will fail.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Which is a good thing...

trump in office being obviously crazy will depress R turnout because their candidates have to say they agree with the crazy shit.

Dems will have a lot of "free" votes because they just have to point out how bad shit is.

Vance's personal pursuit for max power is going to fuck their movement over.

It's why we need to start making sure every Fem.politicians values party/country over their own personal.power.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Not to doom-reply, but…

their candidates have to say

Dems will have

[x] Doubt

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 1 points 8 hours ago

Because they just have to point out how bad shit is? They did that before and Trump got elected again.

[–] TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 1 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Jesus Christ those ai nose hair ads!

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

Ublockorigin blocks all ads and they cannot see you doing it to make you not block them. It's not an actual ad blocker it's like a Content blocker. Download it directly from their website as tech companies no longer host it

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

That you’re still seeing ads in 2026 says more about you

[–] TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

My phone doesn’t have an ad blocker

[–] Jack@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago

Firefox +uBlock Origin works on old Androids. I'm not sure about new versions, iOS, or other phone OSes tho.

I don't think I could go back to using browsers with ads, or videos with sponsors.