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[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 55 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

what?

the GOP delivers every time, Republicans just never bother actually reading what they are voting for

project 2025 made it pretty clear

dems lie constantly and spend 80% of their time middle grounding it or fixing broken shit from the last repub but how anyone can look at Trump currently and think Biden was the same is lmao

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not just Biden, the entire party. They had no issues with trump tripling ICE budget. Once they get back into power they will do very little to roll back anything Trump's done

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

doing nothing or literally being a ham sammich is still miles better than the last 5 regressive repubs we’ve had

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The problem is in the normalization of the policies the last Republican left, paving the way for Republicans to expand on those terrible policies once back in charge

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

overton window moves ever to the right :(

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Not anymore, in the USA. It's fallen off the edge and shattered.

[–] immutable@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The problem is that doing nothing causes the electorate to vote in fascists.

I think the argument I often see between Dems and those further to the left is so difficult because both things are simultaneously true.

  • If people voted in the Dems it would keep the republicans out of power.
  • The Dems failure to deliver causes people to not vote for them.

I think this is where my frustration lies with the party. The job of the party is to win elections and if they can’t articulate and then deliver on policies that cause people to vote for them, they aren’t doing their job. And people can be angry at those that don’t vote for the democrats because it gives the republicans power, but anger in one hand and not much else in the other isn’t going to make those people vote.

So I think the cycle in the meme is largely correct, except I’d probably replace “vibes” with “the consequences of the republicans awful governing finally fuck things up enough that voters kick them out and the Dems are the only other game in town”

If the Dems want to stop being the ticket of last resort after a failed pandemic response leaves a mountain of corpses and a broken society in its wake or literal world war 3 happens, they need to get in power and then use that power to make people’s lives better. Not just a little better around the edges, not just “oh you can stay on your parents insurance until you are 25, still participating in a fundamentally broken system but you get a slightly longer grace period,” not with benefits that phase in over a decade and can be undone by an opposition party before they take effect.

I don’t hold out much hope though, because the Democratic Party has shown me that when push comes to shove their donors win. And their donors make a lot of money from the systems being broken. Hard to cut out the insurance companies from healthcare when they are cutting you big fat election checks. Curtailing predatory loans would be easier if the fees they extract from the working poor didnt in part end up in politicians pockets.

Both parties are owned by the donor class. The republicans figured out they could say they are pro business and they could lie and say they are pro worker, their voters aren’t carefully double checking. The democrats try to do the same thing with a neoliberal twist, they want to keep business in check but are for common sense public private partnerships, proud capitalists who believe in the power of the free market with regulations. It sounds all well and good but the donors would rather not have regulations and those public private partnerships would be a lot more appealing if the donors made a bigger profit and they’ll have even more to donate next election cycle.

The grift grinds on and the democratic base gets outraged that “those stupid voters let the republicans have power again” but if the Dems aren’t doing anything to improve their lives, why do we expect those mercurial voters that swing around untethered with some vague sense that “this is all fucked up” would stick around. It is all fucked up, so many things in this nation are a fucking scam so some small handful of wealthy fucks can have just a little bit more. Sure their idea of “let the republicans have a turn” isnt going to make things better and in many ways will make things worse, but shits fucked up, Dems allow the shit to stay fucked up, those people are just reacting to the fact that things aren’t getting better.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 month ago

the job of the democrats is to do nothing and collect paychecks, pesky progressives keep getting in their way

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

3/4 of heritage foundation’s project 2025 has been delivered. Both parties continue to deliver for Israel. Could it be that it’s two wings of the same bird? I’m about to get personally attacked I bet

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And to put a cherry on top, "Obamacare" was a health care plan by the Heritage Foundation.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It allowed the insurance grift to continue

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It expanded the grift. I was uninsured and negotiating care for cash payments before Obamacare passed. Since then I have been paying monthly premiums for insurance but no money left for care, I have had exactly one checkup since Obamacare passed.

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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

GOP has very successfully delivered on their goal of a corporate oligarchy with no human rights for the working class.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Except for Zohran. 🤟😎

I had assumed he would be another smooth-talking closet conservative like Obama, but nope. So far he's doing as much good as could reasonably be expected, which is a nice change of pace for someone aligned as a Democrat.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Idk, man. He's very early into his administration and he already caved on keeping Jessica Tisch at NYPD.

The guy seems to have his heart in the right place. And he's definitely got the wind at his back. But we have a long way to go until the book is written on Zohran's legacy. He has plenty of opportunities to disappoint.

[–] Arcity@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

He never ran on replacing Tisch. He planned to sideline NYPD by expanding social worker sector. Might as well be disappointed that he didn't implement Shakira law.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

I disagree. The republicans do win on every hate filled thing they want to do and encourage. Actually running a country…did the ever even have a plan other than concepts?

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Now put me on a plane so I can put 'em in a hearse!

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly what I heard next too.

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[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i don’t know, republicans goal seems to be to prove that large government can’t work, by sabotaging it at every turn, and looting tax payer money by the trillions. so yes the republicans consistently deliver. and honestly the democrats have the same want, they just need to pretend to not want that, so they also deliver, slowly

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago (6 children)
  • Dems win
  • Dems control nothing else, blocked at every turn
  • Dems fail to reverse some of the damage
  • voters abandon them as imperfect, choosing worst-case option
  • GoP damages things further to help their rich friends

FTFY

[–] Greyletter@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Democrats arent respsonsible for their failures"

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's always someone else's fault

[–] Greyletter@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Yup. Like, look, i grew up in "the earth is 6,000 years old, gay people go to hell, and science is a liberal conspiracy to serve satan" christianity that is a core of the republican party. I despise them as much as the next guy. But for fucks sake, Dems make it very hard to support them.

[–] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 month ago

The party can only be failed, never fail is a line so many on lemmy love to use. Especially when shown how little the dems care

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Dems control nothing else, blocked at every turn

Except... We've had periods where this is absolutely not true. Cycle still holds.

Stop finger wagging at the people voting and maybe address the real problem here.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

In the past they have had a majority with context that some of the Democrats are only with the party because 90% of the Republican platform is malicious intent.

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[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago

Dems blocked by their own rotating villains in order to protect the status quo

FTFY

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Republicans don't have a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, and they've still been able to implement most of their agenda. They show a willingness to creatively use executive action and authority in ways no Democrat would ever dream of. Republicans ask, "what are the absolute limits of what I can accomplish with the authority I have now?" Democrats say, "well, we don't have a filibuster proof majority in the Senate, so I guess there's no point in trying anything."

Where was Biden threatening to revoke school funding for schools that don't teach comprehensive sex ed?

Why didn't Biden stop the flow of weapons and funding to Israel to fight a genocide?

Why didn't Biden reinstate Obama's Iran deal?

Why didn't Biden use rescission like Trump, and outright refuse to fund departments that were doing more harm than good?

Why didn't Biden let private groups set up abortion clinics on military bases in red states that ban abortion?

Why didn't Biden threaten to withhold funding from states that seek to restrict trans healthcare and other rights?

When it was clear that Trump was going to engage in a mass campaign of race-based immigrant expulsion and deny millions of immigrants their due process, why didn't Biden rapidly move cases through the system, giving millions of immigrants a fast track to citizenship?

Why didn't Biden use emergency authority to fight climate change? Why did he not use defense production laws to speed up the construction and deployment of renewables, as an act of protecting national security?

And on and on. Trump is moving mountains, using only the authority just the president has. He's not waiting for Congress, as he knows he doesn't have the votes to overcome a filibuster. Instead he finds every creative loophole he can to advance his agenda. None of these things would require Congress.

Democrats whine about the authority they don't have. They never try to use the authority they do have. The voters see this and rightfully ask, "wait, why should we give you more power, you're clearly incompetent and not using the power you have right now."

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[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

They are helping rich friends of the oligarchy, which is bipartisan

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago

Meet the new boss Same as the old Boss

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 5 points 1 month ago

I'd say they're delivering the reich pretty damn hard lol

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ok so the theory goes that the GOP is secretly occupied by the most vicious Dems, the Dems control both parties.

During the civil war, it was the northern Republicans who wanted to abolish slavery and adopt the most leftist posture. The democrats in the south seceded.

After losing the civil war, the Dems vowed to wage a secret forever war in the congress. They did this by infiltrating the GOP and gradually steering it towards rabid facism which, by comparison, made the Dems look left wing. The Dems could then push and pull the center wherever fit their aims and narrative. They could enact and enforce the most racist and classist policies by proxy of the GOP, and then 'fail' to prevent them as the Dems.

By dominating positions of power within both parties, they could gatekeep access to both. Shuttle the hateful extremists to the GOP, funnel the ineffective, flaccid liberals to the Dems. That's why the Dems have been the most vocal opponents of effective leftists.

The GOP needs an aggressive coup to return it to its leftist socialist roots, a party who isn't afraid to meet violence with violence again to counter the democrats' subterfuge and drag the nation back towards its liberal, egalitarian and class-concious destiny.

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