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Hmm, I wonder what would be more effective in driving voter turnout: Banishing certain memes on an online space with about 45,000 monthly active users, or Democrats making substantive changes to demonstrate that this cycle won't simply repeat yet again?
I've read the "1/3 couldn't be bothered" sentence about 10 times last week, from different posters. So, no change coming I guess, just vote "not Trump"?
So you want to drive home the idea that nothing changes, and that is how you want to contribute to the voter suppression campaign.
I predict that you will lean even harder into your efforts.
There is nothing more urgent than toppling the Trump regime. But go on, keep up the chatter that tends to reduce voter turnout.
No, I don't want to drive home the idea that nothing changes, I want to change things, while you want to maintain the material conditions that led to the rise of this regime.
Best of luck driving voter turnout with that hogwash.
Absolutely nothing is more urgent than ending the Trump regime.
Absolutely all of your rhetoric will keep, and can be cranked out after the elections are over.
Any mooing that you care to offer in terms of what you think should be done, does not require voter suppression rhetoric.
It really is that simple. Behave in a manner that helps Trump, or behave in a manner that helps dump Trump.
And this proves you're blue MAGA. It's all just a sports game to you.
You want Trump out just for the sake of having Trump out. There's no plan beyond that. There's no accountability beyond that. It's all just "get their guy out and my guy in." Your goal isn't to exact certain policy goals, as otherwise that would be your number one priority. Personally, if Trump pulled a reverse Fetterman tomorrow, had a stroke, and suddenly became progressive, I wouldn't want him out of office. Getting him out is a means to an end, not an end in itself.
And this proves that you were a very slippery baby. Meanwhile, I'll keep my elbows up.
It's all just a sports game to you.
Jesus H Fucking Christ. You are stating a goal that every human with empathy should have.
Close the Concentration Camps. Prosecute the Epstein Class. Hunter down and prosecute all ICE agents. Smash Palantir. Smash Data centers. Implement universal Healthcare.
Speak for your own limited lack of vision.
The goal is to put an end to a fascist regime, instead of letting it gain momentum. Holy fuckity fuck you're extra comfy with the status quo.
Stopping fascism. The fascism, and the act of stopping it. Op stay the ascism fay.
My number one priority is stopping fascism.
That thing that I want again: stopping fascism.
When the time to act decisively comes, just stay out of the way.
Getting rid of trump will change absolutely nothing. Liberals that talk like this act like changing a cog in the machine will change how the machine operates. Trump is a byproduct of 50 years of neoliberal politics , they need to be protesting the system that enables someone like Trump to rise, otherwise, the version you get of him next time will be 10 times worse than this one. Which is what leftist told liberals back in 2016 would happen if you allowed Trump to win his first term, And again in 2020 when we warned that the second term of trump would be 10 times worse than his first when you nominated a neoliberal old white guy that nobody wanted
You have a soft stance on Concentration Camps.
I haven't read anything past your idiotic first sentence.
If nothing is more urgent, and toppling the regime requires voter turnout, then it would stand to reason that perhaps encouraging voter turnout is key? That seems self-evident to me. And the Democrats (and you) ain't gonna get it done by offering the same ol' same ol' that failed to generate turnout for Harris.
On the other hand, people could barely wait to vote for Mamdani.
Maybe there's a lesson there.
And they wonder why their comment was removed
Democrats have enabled that regime and oppose him in rhetoric only
Democrats doing nothing to improve the material conditions of the working class is what keeps voters away. They never offer something to vote for, only against. If they offer no reason to support them they don't deserve support
Cool.
We'll just go ahead and mark you down as being in favor of keeping Trump in power.
Because that is absolutely what following your guidance would do.
Nice work champ.
You're shooting the messenger here.
You're not single-minded enough for the situation at hand, which requires the removal of Trump from office.
Zero rhetoric equivocating the parties should be tolerated.
If there's room for improvement on the Democrats side, find a way to say so without invoking Or Nothing Will Ever Change Language.
Concentration Camps.
Grasp the fucking urgency, and shift your messaging to match it.
Do you think history is a series of discrete events with no relationship to what has come before?
Keeping Trump in power will keep the Concentration Camps open. Removing Trump regime will close the Concentration Camps.
Absolutely no point that you care to moo about alters that fact. As such, I find your question utterly uninteresting.
The US education system teaches, on behalf of the government, that every event is self contained and compartmentalized with no connection to future or past events. It distracts from incremental fascism. Much the way they whine about Putin and what he's done without acknowledging it was the US, Bill Clinton and his government, interfering in Russian elections and getting Boris Yeltsin reelected who nominated Putin to proceed him. Or how Larry Ellison now owns a majority chunk of US entertainment and news which is only possible because of Bill Clinton telecom reform act.
It's liberals that keep people like Trump in power, it's liberals that put people like Trump into power by never addressing those material conditions. Democrats got the black vote in the '60s because they improved the material conditions of the black community. Now they've done nothing but abandoned them along with everyone else from the non-white working class
If I was a troll whose job was to supress democrat votes for these upcoming elections, I would discourage voting by selling hopelessness. First I'd try to conv8nce them that they won't get enough votes anyway. And/or, I'd crap on the only viable alternative.
So basically I'd follow your lead.
I'm absolutely disappointed at this moderator decision, and I'm relieved to at least have seen the comment before it was censored.
What was it?
It was lesser evil gotta vote for the blue fascist bullshit
Given the situation, what would you choose then?
The exact same decision I've made for decades, the best socialist candidate on a ticket.
Advocating for liberalism, lesser evil, or voting for Democrats/Republicans/status quo is not welcome here