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The problem is that what they actually want is "Joe Rogan of the middle" and they already have that in the form of basically every single newscaster that isn't a magatard.

Just like the preferred establishment candidates, they want an empty vessel with no political ideology they can fill with money and operate like a puppet to sheepdog for their own purposes.

Well actually the party is composed of many different people, a variety of backgrounds, and many of them don't want a Joe Rogan of the left because they know that it's just b*******. But it's a cute idea to pretend that they do.

I just don't think "Dems" really exist. People left of MAGA just vote for Democrats because it is what they have to choose from. People who want communism or socialism or social programs or just more fallbacks all want them in varying ways. People say "corporate Democrats" which is basically the majority of what the democratic party has represented for the last decade. A lot of people want to reform what the democratic party is because it is the only structure that exists so that's why people want to primary everyone. In the end though that means that a corporate Democrat, and all those other groups are voting to replace the same people, but they don't have the same views/wants. So there is no one person that would be an agreeable spokesperson for all of the various beliefs. Someone who believes the means of production should be owned by the people will never agree with someone who believes the means of production should be own by private entities. So they would be shitting all over each other's "spokesperson" or whatever.

Exactly this

agreed, they want a coalition sized vote without acknowledging any of the concerns having that size of a vote needs. Bunch of spoiled rich crooked babies who refuse to do the hard work of leading.. and then they repeatedly lose and try to blame everyone else for their lack of attention to the voters who dont feel represented.

I think this is a good take from the Sam Seder crew regarding how new media operates:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BACFyzIjehQ

Because of media fragmentation, two things. First, the vast majority of people do not know who Hasan Piker is. It's a big fragmented media landscape, so most people don't know who "everyone" else is in the media landscape. If you listen to Meidas Touch or Don Lemon, you probably have no clue who Hassan is.

Second.. People get whatever content they are going to get from whichever podcasts or news programs they like, and in general, they like the personality of the people they've developed trust in to give them the news or media analysis. People who know who Hassan is, they like him.

It's a form of positive selection bias. People like who they know and they know who they are because they like them. It's why they've come to know them.

The Hassan derangement syndrome thing is real and it brings no one to the table. It only serves to appease a small group of donors and only hurts the Democrats.

They never wanted Hasan, but they definitely wanted someone like Joe Rogan. I remember the talk around it as the 2024 presidential campaigns were really ramping up.

They don't want to be challenged. They want a cheerleader who will help rally people to vote for them without actually having to change their positions.

Democrats are on the hunt for their own Joe Rogan from May 2025

Democrats seeking to buy the 'next Joe Rogan' of the left after 2024 election defeat also May 2025

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It's definitely been a topic for a couple of years now.

Ask Gavin Newsome he seems like he loves bringing nazi and fucking hate mongers on his show.