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[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People with actually conservative values are closer to us than liberals. NASCAR evolved out of running from the cop, cause fuck 'em. They used to fuck with banks to save people's farms. They used to rail opiates to deal with the downstream effects of capitlaist alienation. Theo is from this actual conservative traditon.

[–] dead@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As someone who has always lived in the US South and very close to the NASCAR industry. I'm going to hard disagree with you about 'conservative values'. I've worked on jobsites owned by NASCAR teams and I can tell you from first hand experience that NASCAR workers do not have particularly good values.

Although, NASCAR history likes to boast that NASCAR originated from outrunning the police with moonshine vehicles, in recent years, NASCAR has been pretty explicitly opposed to police reform movements such as Black Lives Matter. I commonly see NASCAR types using the fascist 'thin blue line' cop flag. Within the past decade, there have been multiple NASCARs painted with memorials to officers who died on duty.

People who come from poor backgrounds may have conservative values but people with conservative values do not have class consciousness. They may hate bankers but not on the grounds of class. Conservatives only hate bankers because of personal grievances or because of a secret third reason. 'Conservative values' means recognizing that societal problems exist and then blaming those problems on the existence of marginalized groups.

[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

I would argue that is neocon behavior.

I think there is a like Country vs Western dynamic where they got hit with a false consciousness psyop same as we did. Just a diffrent psyop.

Howver I would be being needless pedantic in doing so.

Like, rednecks were comrades, cowboys were mostly black or latino, white rascists worked with the black panthers cause fuck the cops.

There is, I think, something here. It probably isn't worth the energy to figure out at the moment so you make a fair critique

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Is he good I just assumed he was another shitty bro

[–] dead@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The average American has an entirely incoherent world view of mismatch opinions. Theo Von is a populist but also a manosphere type. For example, he interviewed Trump during the 2024 election and told Trump about doing cocaine and various other drugs. However, he was also outraged when ICE used his face in a video to promote deportations.

In May 2025, Theo Von performed a stand up comedy show at a US military base in Qatar. Around the same time, Theo Von was trying to be a real life friend with Hasan Piker. IIRC, Hasan told him not to go to perform for the US military. They did a podcast episode together before that.

Theo Von seems like the type of person who is well-intentioned but ignorant or uninformed. He's not a great person and a lot of bro-types follow him.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

apotheosis of hot couch guy, got it

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I find it hard to get a solid read on him.

He's a good example for chuds to see someone work through the process of questioning conservative doctrine and "common sense" beliefs, often coming to decent-ish positions when he talks on his podcast.

I keep an open mind that his connection to david duke might be more complicated than is publicly acknowledged. they were neighbours at one point when he was young.

incidentally he's older than he appears, in his 50s I think?

it's interesting to speculate on why he's successful.

[–] MrPiss@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago

incidentally he's older than he appears, in his 50s I think?

He's 46 according to google.

I find it hard to get a solid read on him.

Like many US Americans, he is too stupid to have an ideology so he has to be classified by the kind of guy he is. From what I have seen, he is a podcaster who's more of a live and let live kind of dude bro libertarian(?) (the dumb true believer kind, not the nazi/pedo kind). All his beliefs are reactions not based on moral principles but on the gut/vibes.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

his connection to david duke might be more complicated than

Wtf?

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

idk if thats a rhetorical wtf or genuine curiousity but as I recall it:

When Theo was a kid living with his mum one of the places they lived had Duke as a back fence neighbour. Theo being a kid didn't know who he was so his recollections of him are that he was just a rather normal friendly (wonder why) neighbour.

Its worth noting that this has never come up in the context of Theo defending Duke or anything like that. To whatever extent Theo's commentary has touched on Duke's KKK history etc its more like "wow you never know who's really a monster do you?"

I don't stay on the pulse of right wing comedy though so I'm not sure if there are any more "interesting" threads that have been pulled on with regard to this. I just keep the factoid in the back of my mind when I'm trying to figure out what his deal is. I'm sure it wasn't the case but to me it seemed like he just appeared one day like a plant. But that's the Rogansphere for you.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

Thanks for the background. Normally I’d be suspicious but hogs are dime a dozen in this country

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

Extremely transphobic. Still gets the pit.

Isn't he also connected to Tim Dillon and by extension Nick Mullen?

[–] Pastaguini@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

His dad was born the year the titanic had its voyage.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Theo is the example par excellence of a cultural mercenary. Now, overall this is, of course, a bad thing, because he has no actual loyalties and will prostitute (in the same way many of us do) himself to where he feels the winds of change are coming.

People who tar him as just another run of the mill conservative comedy podcaster, ala the Full Send boys, are missing that he is, quite often, the left leading edge of the reactionary comedy sphere, kinda a fun house mirror of Nick Mullen (who was/still to some degree is the right leaning edge of the revolutionary comedy sphere). However unlike, say, a Nick Fuentes, who critiques the right for the purposes of creating a more radical right, Theo is too dumb to actually have a political programme or coherent ideology, but is smart enough to know where his audience is.

Theo has very little loyalty to the powers that be, he is loyal to his audience and what they find funny, and loyal to a kind of loose libertarian value set. He's like if libertarian's were funny purpose sometimes.

That said, way better and more informed shit out there. Just, beware of thinking of your enemies as a truely consolidated whole, there are always areas of division and fracture, and Theo exemplifies one of those areas.

[–] CocteauChameleons@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

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