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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)
  • Take Crosstrek
  • Remove engine, install electric powerplant
  • ~250 mile range
  • ~200 kW charging
  • Basically just put the guts from an Ioniq 5 in it
  • Keep controls the same as old car, no touch screen bullshit
  • Shut up and take my money

I don't know why automakers keep acting like this is so fucking hard to figure out.

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 5 points 6 months ago

Because every single decision is to maximize profits, not make sense!

[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is what Chevy is doing. Silverado, Blazer equinox, etc

Almost every other manufacturer is afraid of sullying their precious model “heritage” by putting it on an ev. So instead they make new models or sub brands, and fuck it up more often than they don’t.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

They're really not, though. They're reusing the names, sure, but as we all know from the Aging Wheels videos for instance the EV Silverado shares zero commonality with its internal combustion counterpart. Ditto obviously with the EV "Mustang" which is quite clearly a milquetoast crossover SUV not not a two door sports car. (You now have license to argue whether or not the normal Mustang counts as a sports car. I'll sit that one out, however.)

And all of the above are saddled with touch screen bullshit, app bullshit, subscription bullshit, and phone-home bullshit which my current stick shift Crosstrek most emphatically is not. And that's really where my beef lies.

I want the 2027 EV Crosstrek to have exactly the same interior and features as my 2014 Crosstrek, including the gear stick if possible. Yes, I know that's never going to happen, but while I'm sitting here making demands that what I want. If Subaru manufactures this I will buy one tomorrow. They don't need to pay to R&D new body panels or hire anybody to invent a 4% uglier brake light housing assembly, or contract India to shit out a laggy bug riddled center console menu. Sponge Bob Patrick meme: Take the car you've already got, and stick this in it.

[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

I mean there is a limit on what an dedicated ev platform can share with its gas counterpart.

The Mach-e is an extreme example of what not to do with a heritage brand.

But the Silverado ev is at least a truck, and both blazers were crossovers.

Subaru is a prime example of the BS I’m talking about. No electric crosstalk, but instead a solterra. No outback, but a trail seeker.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wish I could afford a 3 row electric SUV. A sentence younger me never thought I’d say.

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Same, but I want a compact 3-row. Like the 3rd the row is available in case I need to carry more than 4 people, but otherwise the seats are folded down for cargo space. It's annoying that the Kia Sorento is what fits the bill, and it's way cheaper than the competition too. But then it's a Kia.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Kia has come a long way for reliability. Still cheap in some regard and maybe some dud engines/transmissions, but a lot better than years ago. You talking styling though?

EDIT: Ah I see you other comment about the theft. I think that was only a problem with the models that had key ignitions, no?

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes, they had several years of models that had no immobilizers, because they wanted to save a couple of bucks. I have no issues with their styling at all, in fact I loved their quirky designs that I got a Kia Soul for that very reason. Too bad I had to let it go because no insurance company wanted to cover me, or if there was, it was insanely expensive for such a cheap car.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Those b-boy hamsters haha

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] scytale@piefed.zip 2 points 6 months ago

Bad reliability history. They kinda turned it around in the 2010s, then the kiaboyz happened in the 2020s. I owned a Kia that was a potential target and it was so stressful owning one. I have to admit their EVs seem to be ok though. Also, I think they are one of the worst with data collection among car brands.

[–] Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Wagons used to be exactly that plus tons of trunk space

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I like the idea, but I don’t expect it to be affordable. I also want to see more EVs being covered in solar panels for at least some free mileage.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Less than a mile per day. Not worth effort.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Aptera gets up to 40 per day, but that vehicle also focuses on extreme efficiency in other ways. I just wish more technology focused on practicality and efficiency.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Looks like a rebadged Toyota.

[–] NutellaIs4Lvrs@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It literally is. Shared platform between this and the Highlander EV

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Which raises the question: Why should Subaru continue to exist if their entire lineup in 10 years time is only shared platforms? The only thing they'll be selling on is name recognition- their interiors or features are no better and in many cases worse than Toyota. And they sure don't show up any cheaper either.

They're basically a dead car company with nothing to their name. My how the giants have fallen.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Brand preference. GMC and Chevy have always released the same vehicles yet still both exist and I know more than a few people who prefer one over the other.

That aside, Subaru still checks boxes that Toyota doesn't like the AWD Outback wagon and the AWD WRX. Here in the PNW, both brands are extremely popular.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

Toyota and Subaru have built numerous cars together like the BRZ/FRS, Supra, and BZ4X/Solterra

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Codeveloped. Toyota is a major holder in Subaru and they share a lot of parts.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

More like Toyota owns Subaru at this point. Subaru can't build anything innovative of their own and haven't for a decade. RIP.

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You can tell there is a design difference. The Uncharted/C-HR is a Toyota design - front wheel drive first platform (rear motor is only half as powerful as the front) with limited interior space, especially in the back. The Trailseeker/Woodland is a Subaru design - symmetrical 4WD system, ample backseat space, based on the Global Platform, the chassis layout every Subaru's used in all their cars for years. They know their base, and they're very much a "don't change what works" kind of company.

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 3 points 6 months ago

"The Most Powerful Subaru Ever Is This Electric Family SUV, Yes", says Yoda.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

God they couldn't put a vent or piece of trim across where the front grille would typically be? It looks so out of proportion with the thin LED lights and off-center badge.

[–] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Grills wreak havoc on aerodynamics

They're needed for cooling gas cars, which have so much waste heat, but they reduce range significantly

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah I'm fine with no grille and I understand why EVs don't have or need them, but this particular example looks like a whiteboard with an off-center badge slapped on top of it.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

I think this looks atrocious. Grills could be redesigned to not just be a big flat piece of plastic. Or, we aren't using the entire range all the time, so maybe it's not the most important thing.

So many cars have been homogenized by this. I miss when cars had personality and charm.

[–] karpintero@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

The 6 seater config looks nice, prefer captains chairs to a 2nd row bench. Initial launch will only have the bigger 95.8-kWh battery with 300+ mi range, with the "standard" 77-kWh battery coming later. Overall good to see more 3 row EVs make it to market (still wish someone would come out with another EV minivan...maybe the ID.Buzz returns in '27)

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 1 points 6 months ago

Their anti-vpn protection doesn't let me see it.

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

WHY??? Please put some HP in the wrx, not this freaking mini van.