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With exceptions in cases like when a couple loses a child

Edit: in a scenario where everything is good. No wars, no famine.

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[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

The one child policy was tried. It was a disaster.

The real question is why you would possibly think it's a good idea to try.

[–] disregardable@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 days ago

Literally zero way to enforce it without being cruel.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 8 points 6 days ago

Absolutely not. There’s no scenario where I would agree with forcing people to have children.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

nope but I don't think we should subsidize having kids with tax brakes and such. 100% public education and meals at school and we should have universal healthcare. so if children are born provide for their needs as we do for other members of society but no tax breaks or such.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago

I’d happily pay more taxes for all of those things, absolutely agree.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As an upper limit? As a lower limit? What do you mean?

Forcing people who don't want kids to have two is insane. Who will make it happen? Is there a conception agency where agents just go a rape women in this imagined scenario?

Forcing a third pregnancy to terminate is also pretty insane. Suppose the mother doesn't even know she's pregnant until pretty far along. Suppose a mother hides her pregnancy and gives birth in secret; is that baby getting killed?

In either case, what is the punishment for violation? Suppose a woman is incapable of having kids when you mandated 2; is she to be executed for being unable to fulfill this societal requirement? Suppose a woman intentionally had more than her government-permitted 2 children; what is her sentence for providing extra mouths to feed?

It's unethical, it's not reasonably enforceable, and frankly, I'm not sure I understand what such a policy would even be attempting to accomplish.

[–] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I meant as an upper limit.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Forcing women to terminate pregnancies is as cruel as forcing them to be inseminated.

What's your point with this question?

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago (25 children)

That was already performed in China.
Kids were born outside of hospitals and either were ghost people without proper paperworl or registered as children of other family members like the sister.

[–] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 6 days ago

Omg, that's awful

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[–] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What's your point with this question?

I wanted to know? What else would it be? That's pretty obvious.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There’s no pros to controlling women’s autonomy and bodies.

[–] Karl@literature.cafe 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I never said that. Why're you soo intent on putting words into my mouth?

Population could also be controlled by neutering men.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not when it is a two child policy - women still birth those children.

Fundamentally this is a question centered around controlling women’s bodies because it’s women that bear and birth children.

[–] Karl@literature.cafe 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And men still produce sperm. If we neuter them after 2 children we can still do it. Not that I like that. Just saying there is something else

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Still forcing women to birth two children each.

[–] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I notice that you have replied to my other comment. You must know I meant that as an upper limit. Is there a reason you need to pretend you didn't read it?

[–] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 6 days ago

Read my other comment. I think I should have specified that in the post.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think with the cost of living, wars etc, the world population will begin to slow, then eventually lower. With or without a one/two child policy. Shit fucking sucks and I think people won’t be be able to afford kids soon. I am just grasping at straws here, and this is just personal opinion.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Due to economic, environmental, and cultural state and trends, my wife and I are choosing to not have children. Our dog is lovely. I will not spend my time and energy to give capitalists another generation of cheap labor just in time for this class to flee from rising sea levels, suffer malnutrition, and choke on contaminated air and water. I believe that it is inhumane to bring life into this world with the knowledge that they will endure the hardship and suffering that is so obviously coming.

We will sooner see throuples become socially acceptable in order to make rent than offer any real help to the working class. There is a pedophile running America and the American people are still policing bathrooms to protect against imaginary pedophiles. The priorities are beyond fucked.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 2 points 6 days ago

might i suggest adoption? There are lots of kids who need a home. Just a thought :)

[–] mr_manager@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The current trend on world population has us hitting 10.3 billion in 2080, and then it starts to recede. The idea of an overpopulated world comes from a book written in 1968 called “The Population Bomb”. The actual problem we’re facing in the west is a rapidly aging population, and birth rates that are falling off a cliff.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/07/1151971

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[–] Jaegeras@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago

Yes.

People shouldn't come in litters. Ever.

[–] monovergent@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago
[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Are you asking if it should be a thing, or if it exists?

[–] Karl@literature.cafe 2 points 6 days ago

Ah, I missed the 'should'. Thanks :)

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