Is this the most efficient way to store 17 houses?
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Reminds me of this place:
(I remember just walking to school and it felt weird walking on a "slanted" street lol)
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Downtown Denver:
This is the part in Sim City where I restart.
Aw, now I miss Sim City 2000
Sim City 4 is the best version of the Sim City games, and is 75% off on GOG right now, $5 / £4.
Cities Skylines 1 is the best modern city builder, 3D and a lot of fun plus well designed. But only really worth it when it's on sale; lots of DLC and overpriced as a package when not on sale. Avoid Cities Skylines 2 - it's just not fun and hasn't been fixed - maybe they will one day fix but I doubt it 2.5 years in..
Imagine what Cities Skylines could have been without Paradox's super monetization plan
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Cities and Skylines isn’t too far off from that sim city 2000 vibe, if you need a fix
The GoG version of SimCity 2000 runs fine in wine. The originals, not so much.
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=504
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At least with places like Denver and other western cities it's pretty straightforward how it happened - everything built along the river. Access to the river was key.
Being a boom/bust city means that a much later boom they adjusted.
Then even older cities (think Boston) grew before any opportunity at planning could happen.
Denver was two cities - Auraria (correction from Aurora thanks to ) and Denver. One was built to align with the river, the other with compass points and then they grew big enough to smush into each other and neither was willing to concede to the other.
Also Denver’s namesake, a Kansas politician, never even visited. It was a failed attempt to lure him here.
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Where is this?
Edit: Found it! Jacksonville Beach, FL
30.280765 N 81.393002 W
In my experience, many cities old enough in the US. Almost every biggish city where I live has the center of town laying differently than the newer, surrounding areas. There was a time when they oriented things different than how they plan it out now so now the older downtown areas look cock-eyed on a map/satellite image.
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Here's another one:
Missoula, MT
Inb4 Hank Green does a video about this.
It's actually a good story, too. I'm on mobile and not really qualified to tell it, however.
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Indianapolis built the central mile square of streets aligned with magnetic north, but then the rest of downtown aligned with true north. It’s almost aligned, which causes problems at that border.
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How about a grid system that changes direction at every single avenue?
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Unrelated but,
Theres a section of Prince George Canada that all of a sudden does a big U. The story i was told is that back in the day there were two competing railway companies, and one of them bought enough influence that when the city was making roads to the other company, they instead made the roads bend back. 
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actually tho, flowing windy streets and roads are so much better.
- more interesting
- less of a drag track
- not depressing stroadie strips
- keeps people on main roads rather than just trying to cut through residential streets
- naturally manages driver attention
Less intersections where cars can crash into pedestrians or other vehicles
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Boston looks much easier to navigate though. Much clearer road hierarchy, meaning better flowing traffic, and less traffic near houses and shops.
Disclaimer: above statement is based on the image posted here, not on knowledge on the actual situation.
Where I'm from cities like Boston are the norm. When I was in a grid city for the first time, I immediately got lost on the roads because everything just looks the same.
On the other hand, Americans seem to have a more intuitive sense of the cardinal directions than Europeans do from my experience. Which makes sense if you're used to roads aligned with them.
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Welcome to everywhere else in the world that's not a fucking grid lol.
This isnt a computer where traces are made in 90 and 45° angles.
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Lol get fucking rotated
Ugh that grid pattern. Imagine living somewhere so uninspired.
Have you considered maybe it’s easier to navigate and plan a grid pattern? I wouldn’t mind uninspired street names like 1st, 2nd, 3rd St, crossways with N, O, P, Q Ave so you at least know which direction is which. Give me that chess board layout so I don’t need to pull up a map to navigate your city please. Car C1 takes Bar G5
and then 14th SE doesnt connect with 14th NE
thanks portland
Sure but you'll never encounter the magic of a crooked alley snaking its way through a maze of medieval building.
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It's tough to look at, but I bet it's amazing for traffic calming.
Came here to say the same. This design (or accident) forces north/south traffic to use the arterials on either side of the neighbourhood instead of going through the neighbourhood.
I kinda like it. It's just neat enough.
A lot of old city plats follow the exact pattern of that square, so I'd be curious what the sequence of development was.
There has to be some interesting history here.
A few other examples have been posted, but this is easily the wildest. It's not even the same aspect ratio of grid, or at a normal angle to the rest, or over a very significant area. (And they've still managed to tie it in reasonably well)
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Our house is on a slanty road and I've never lived on one before, my mind rejects it. The CORNERS of the house point in cardinal directions. It's because we are near a river, some of the streets in my neighborhood follow its course, which right here runs southwest.
I just have to stop and think every time. Because I have only stayed on N-S or E-W roads my mind thinks our walls ought to be along those lines. I have to point at the corner and say NORTH out loud more often than you'd think.
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