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IDK about y'all, but in that scenario, I'd just shoot the cop.
Dead cops can't arrest anyone, trans or not.
We could compromise! Abolish the police. No one gets hurt that way!
I don't think "no one gets hurt" is an option in a state where Nazis have taken aim at a bloc of people.
These fucking fascists want to play with fire. They shouldn't expect to escape unburned.
And murderers magically vanish I suppose?
If the police prevented murder no one would get arrested for it :)
If trans people are a myth then the law is made up.
My first thought! Okay they are a myth so what’s the point of your bill?
You legislating against Bigfoot?
No?
Washington has a law against hunting Bigfoot (but this is to keep people from shooting other people "accidentally" who may or may not be dressed as Bigfoot)
Remember when you could get in a car with your mother/wife/sister/girlfriend/daughter/neice/grandma/aunt and drive across the country and they'd have the same human rights from sea to shining sea and now they gain and lose basic human rights as they cross state borders?
Yeah, Republicans did that. They are traitors and the enemy of the American people.
I could see the vigilante justice response to this would be the theft of gender labeled bathroom signs. It then becomes a 50/50 gamble whether any human that needs to empty their bladder goes to prison for 5 years. Even just opening the door to see if there are urinals or stalls-only should run afoul of this law. Bonus points for activists following lawmakers that voted for this when the lawmaker needs to use a bathroom in an unfamiliar place.
The vigilante move is to protect your trans homies by taking out the cop who is trying to arrest someone for being fuckin trans.
How far away are we from gay people just being stoned to death in public in the US?
Like, October?
Serious question: if they are a myth, why the need to ban trans people from anything?
I hereby ban dragons from Starbucks! And the bank! And from driving! Muahaha, I’m so fucking evil!!
Their logic, such as it is, is that since trans people don't exist, anybody in the "wrong" bathroom is there for nefarious reasons.
It's false to anybody with a brain, because trans people do exist. In fact, even if you think gender dysphoria and trans identity are not how they're commonly described, harsh punishments for using the "wrong" bathroom still don't make sense, because the logical conclusion would be that those people are misguided or deluded, not predatory.
Still, it behooves us all to understand the emotional reasoning behind gender-segregated bathrooms: in most cultures (at least Western ones, but I think it goes further) there is a deep-seated idea that certain things are wrong if done in the presence of people of the other gender. Cultures with very different attitudes to nudity, for example, still have gender-segregated baths and saunas. I don't think there's any logical reason for this, but people (especially conservatives) feel the need to preserve it: the idea of gender-neutral bathrooms is crazy to them.
What, then, do you do with people who say their gender is other than what you, the dominant culture, say it is? Do you let them use the bathroom/shower/sauna they say they should? But then ANYONE could say their gender is different, and you wouldn't have gender segregation at all! Oh no!
And actually, I agree with this. I think if you're going to let people pick which bathroom they use according to their self-identification, gender segregated bathrooms are pointless, so we should get rid of them. Of course, this is not a popular view even among moderate left-wingers in Western countries, never mind Republicans, so we have this stupid culture war.
That's The thing i was asking myself too.
If they're a myth, why make a law against a supposed myth? Oh, it's a talking point of you wanting to make them a myth. Republicans are a myth.
I appreciate the sarcasm, but their actual "thought process" (yes, that belongs in quotes) goes something like this:
To put it simply, because they don't think trans people exist, a person using the wrong gendered bathroom is there to sexually assault people.
Because signs apparently stop rapists.
Which is weird, because people like them are statistically far more likely to commit sexual assault than trans people or drag Queens.
I guess it's yet another example of right wing projection.
Well, that's the explanation they give publicly. In reality, they just want to hurt and oppress people.
Another reason to avoid Idaho.
Not that I needed one.
Intelligence in Republicans is a Myth.
These republicans are truly perverted. By every meaning of the word.
Does anyone know if this is less bad or worse than what they have in Russia ?
How do they enforce this? Without checking people gentiles? I seen plenty of trans men that look more manly then me.
And yet, you knew they were trans men. That's how the law will be enforced. Are you a trans guy who works somewhere and illegally uses the men's bathroom? All it takes is one bigoted coworker finding out you're trans, and they can then have you arrested. They may even be able to use your personally for thousands of dollars. So even if the police won't bother with such bullshit, they still may be able to attack their trans coworker. And ultimately, in a case like this with a bigoted employee suing a trans coworker, the employer would most likely just fire the trans person to make the problem go away.
The goal is not to have a proper rule, it's to hurt people, and to have additional thing they pin on people they hate.
https://www.advocate.com/news/lesbian-mistaken-transgender-arizona-walmart
They don’t care if you’re trans or not. It’s to punish people for not conforming.
Honestly, as a trans woman that doesn’t pass, there’s fewer than ten states where I feel comfortable existing.
Give yourself credit for bravery, fortitude and resiliency. As a hetero white cis male, there are zero states I feel comfortable existing in.
Bravery doesn't mean much when I just wanna exist without the federal government throwing its full weight against me, while riling up lone wolves and poisoning any sort of discussion and thought process among the public.
Respectfully disagree. It means everything. It is an unfair burden for you to bear, but your existence is a beacon of light for everyone who struggles with acceptance of diversity and seeks basic human rights. You are not alone.
No such thing as doesn’t pass. You tell me you’re a woman? Who the fuck am I to question what you feel in your bones? In the spirit of the republicans making shit up to disenfranchise, I hereby declare that you pass. As whatever the fuck you want, whenever the fuck you want to.
I will even print you a pass.
I appreciate the thought here, but it's absurd to argue that passing "doesn't exist." Fine if you want to say it doesn't or shouldn't matter. Or that it gets too much focus placed on it. But to pretend passing simply doesn't exist? This is just gaslighting. Passing obviously does exist. It's specific definition would be "having an appearance that the vast majority of randomly selected people would say most resembles a gender other than that assigned to a person at birth." That's an objective fact. We can't just wish it away because it's inconvenient.
What should the law be, everyone can use any washroom they want essentially, kind of a libertarian style system that removes all restrictions?
In Oregon, today, in a performing theater of all places, as I entered the vestibule of the women's restroom, some old lady said "are you sure this is the men's room? Wanna go check the sign once again?"
So that fucked with my whole day.
I thought I looked good, looked stylish. 13 years of HRT is not enough apparently.
There's pictures of me on my userinfo page.
I don't want to be toxically positive but
Girl you are an icon! I love your fashion posts
fuck that lady
That picture of you is fucking stylish.
That is fucked up, and it’s absolutely shitty that you had to deal with that. My parents are the same sort of people. ( which is part of why I don’t talk to them).
You need to know: if it wasn’t this, they would still find a way to be cunts. Trans is seen as an easy target, particularly with the republicans in power. If it wasn’t this, there would be something.
This is the hard part: they want you to feel bad. It is their sole purpose in interacting with you. How you feel, only you have control over.
I tend to brutal rudeness when interacting with people like this, using language they don’t tolerate, and being personal about it.
That won’t work for everyone, and be mindful that law enforcement will back granny sour cunt over you, but be rude, be loud, embarrass them, because that’s what they are trying to do to you
I live in Idaho and guarantee this will be used by chucklefucks to not only harass trans people, but cis women who don’t fit their standard of beauty and effeminate cis men. Not that they don’t already, but now they can really fuck with someone by calling the cops and disrupting the person’s day rather than just snide comments.
I wouldn't want to go in an extreme bathroom anyway. Sounds gross.
If the law said I don't exists I would go and rob a bank instead.... Nobody would believe them
Thank dog the left can’t get their shit together to vote as a bloc.
(/s obvs)