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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The rationale for this piece of conventional wisdom was that the older you got, the more established you became in life, the more your estate grew, the more you owned your home, your car and whatnot. And of course, the more stuff you own, the more you want things to stay the same.

The reason it's been broken is because that path to better old days has been broken too: younger generations can't save, can't own a home, have a hard time finding a job, and are pretty much guaranteed to be worse off than their parents.

This will be the conservative parties' undoing ultimately. Unfortunately, it also fuels the rise of populism and the return of idiotic extremist ideas - both extreme left and extreme right.

Until the world blows up again, recovers, then people get rich again, conservatism goes on the rise again... Rinse, repeat.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I didn't understand that as a white bloke, born in an English speaking country to parents who valued education, that I had already won life's lottery. I'm ashamed to admit that I genuinely believed for a while that success was merely a matter of talent and work. I'm Gen-X, and I'm very grateful to have been lucky enough to have experienced what I genuinely think might have been society's golden years when I was able to enjoy them

Then I saw more of the world and grew up a bit. I grew to understand that talent and work definitely help, but they don't help equally, and that there were people with immense talent who could work their arses off, and they would just never get the chance to shine like an average person from the world I knew

I worked, and I shone, and I made some money, and now I have a modest life in a small place because it's more important to me to do stuff that helps the world rather than to rapaciously accumulate more, purely for its own sake

I plan to die without a single thing to my name, but I hope that what I have done and what I've tried to give back have made the world slightly less shitty

[–] derry@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

Someone put it to me like this once.

Imagine a path to the top of a mountain, the trail you describe is on a slow ascent towards the top, clearly marked, has rope guides to hang on to, rest areas, people to carry your backpack as needed.

For many others there is no trail, no guides, steep climbing, few if any rest areas, little to no help

I chose to help the latter up the mountain.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

This makes me think of a passage from "The Brothers Karamazov" where one of them goes on an extended rant, rejecting god. It boils down to the idea that the price of heaven isn't worth it. All the suffering and cruelty on earth cannot be overseen by any god worth worshipping, or accepting reward from. I realize from your comment that this line of thinking encapsulates how I feel about capitalism. "I reject the ticket".

And there os no more 'conservative' alignment in politics.

Theres the christofascist/HOI/CODnazi/epsteinist alliance

Theres the dissident epsteinists who want to seem nice and feel good about themselves while fixing nothing, along with the marks who vote for them.

Then theres the insurrectionists who dont think we should rape children end the world on purpose or regard some races as 'lesser'; anarchists and tankies.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Conservative parties have already left behind the “two car garage and a white picket fence” classical conservatives. They’ve pivoted over to full on flip the table MAGA reactionary garbage. The path for young centrist/liberal kids to grow up into conservative boomers is indeed closed, but it’s naive to think the left is going to pick up all those disaffected youth.

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's not the age, it's the money that ruins people.

Kill billionaires!

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm in my late 40s and still not.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

56 here. Keep drifting further left.

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I look forward to that.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm a lot older than that, and I have definitely gotten more left as I aged. I'm far more radical now than I ever thought I'd be.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think it works as much for Gen X or younger. Real tell for conservatism is wealth. Give a youngster a high salary and an inheritance and many of them are just as conservative as their grandparents. The 'I got mine, fuck you' attitude is more prevalent by wealth category than age category.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

Valid. That's why I won't vote for any Billionaires for office, although FDR proves my rule wrong, so I have to take it on a case by case basis.

[–] derry@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

Well done, comrade

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have seen this phenomenon across the world and across social classes.

Gen X and elder millennials tended towards the left as they aged.

But I do wonder if the consequence, to keep the weird equilibrium is that the younger generations are becoming far more fascist.

There was that other rule that supposed successive generations would become more liberal, but we are witnessing a reversal of that to puritan values, misogyny and nationalism.

There's a lot going on with it. I'm gonna gloss over some things here and there but this is the basic trend as I understand it. A lot of it has to do with differing responses to the world getting worse and what different generations had at their disposal to explain it.

Currently there's a lot of money being poured into propaganda aimed at pulling young people to the right. So where Gen Z had a lot of care put into making sure that blame was placed on like minorities and women for why their lives sucked, Elder Millennials didn't really have that. We were a bit better educated on average since things hadn't gotten as bad yet, and the propaganda machine hadn't been as heavily invested into yet. So a lot of us were better equipped to identify that the root cause of the issues was capital accumulation.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago

I like using this as reply to pretty much the same sentiment on the book of faces.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A secret unspoken thing about this is that in the past, more lefties died before ever reaching old age, by the systems in place intentionally making their lives harder, so they'd either get killed or kill themselves.

So the older and more conservative hung around by purely survivorship bias.

But the systems in place are now even failing those who they used to unfairly benefit, making it so more lefties survive and also more conservative get radicalised against those unfair systems and turn left

[–] chemicalprophet@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I enjoy the theory that this idea you get conservative as you age was was due to lead exposure.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My parents got more liberal as they aged and they were born during ww2

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

They only say that referring to people who burn out or get a personal stake in the system.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

The only thing that I'm more conservative with now is my back and knees.

[–] supamanc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I always thought of this as society as a whole moving more to the left as time goes on, whereas individuals tend to stay anchored to the same beliefs. Now I'm no longer convinced!

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 3 points 1 week ago

I have definitely become more conservative as I aged moving from Communist to Socialist.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

On one hand, I recognize, from a neutral standpoint, that this is fucked. People become more right-wing with age because they acquire more that they can lose - not just materially, but socially as well - more family, friends, connections.

Instead of becoming deeply rooted in life, which engenders some limited degree of conservatism insofar as it prioritizes stability (ie, getting rooted doesn't make you anti-gay, but it might make you more anti-riot, because you don't want your kid or spouse getting brained by a stray brick on the way home from the grocery store), we're becoming literally less rooted in life. This is contrary to every generation since the 1930s. It is a sign of instability, which is bad - yet that it is instability indicates the need for instability - the current situation is untenable at any level of stability.

How fucked.

On the other hand, thank fuck I won't be in the old folks home with a bunch of fucking conservatives. We'll unionize when we get there and demand the good tapioca pudding, and give out hard candy to all the protestors while reminiscing about when we were limber enough to toss bricks through cop windshields.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

getting rooted doesn't make you anti-gay, but it might make you more anti-riot, because you don't want your kid or spouse getting brained by a stray brick on the way home from the grocery store

Maybe, if that were the reason, but the reason they are conservative isn't because they are anti-riot, it's because they've been listening to the Conservative Propaganda Machine exclusively, and have been convinced by Traitors and Pervoids that gay people should be exterminated.

Stop thinking anything these psychopaths are doing is in good faith. There is ALWAYS an ulterior motive, and it is always more evil than we could have imagined.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe, if that were the reason, but the reason they are conservative isn’t because they are anti-riot, it’s because they’ve been listening to the Conservative Propaganda Machine exclusively, and have been convinced by Traitors and Pervoids that gay people should be exterminated.

I mean conservative in the broader sense of 'less inclined to revolutionary action', not conservative in the sense of 'aligned with the braindead fascism of the modern right-wing'. I think it's normal for a functioning society to see older and more rooted individuals as less inclined towards radicalism than they were when they were young and rootless. I think it's deeply abnormal for any society which wishes to remain functioning to see the exact kind of right-wing loons we're dealing with as a significant portion of any demographic.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Getting older and having kids made me think about the community they're growing up in (or lack thereof...) and the future they can expect to have (or not have).

The neoliberal policy boomers are defending as the status quo has made us poorer for decades. It's clear it isn't working. The past they talk about needing to go back to predates their own political awareness so they don't even have the language to describe it. In lieu of attempting any reform they just shit on us instead.

[–] JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Funny thing happening in Australia at the moment is that analysts are suprised by the millenial generation not shifting conservative as they age, instead holding onto progressive values and its showing in the current political sphere.
Turns out if you take away people futures via income, housing/rent affordability, cost of living, etc that people are actually committed to making change.

An article on the topic if your interested. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-26/millennials-rewriting-the-rules-of-australian-politics/106050836

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sadly it results in people voting the slightly less rightwing Labor party. Greens are somewhat leftist, but they’re not seeing the gains needed to be influential enough on policy formation.

[–] JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago

But the beauty of our preferential voting system is you can keep voting greens #1 and letting your vote flow onto the next best option/s until over time the greens (or your party of choice) can build up numbers to contest as ruling party, and leave the conservatove parties behind. You still get the not-quite-so-shit government in the mean time, but progress is happening.

[–] Kintarian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I’m 64 and still leftist commie scum

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

Yup, conservatives and those willing to succeed in order to have shiny stuff appear in all ages.

OP posting a Meme like this is a low hanging fruit, and is infact borderline passive aggressive against an age group...it distracts away from the true cause.

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago

The boomer who told me this died of covid 2 years later 😂