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Grok Reasoning: 0%
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Reasoning is woke propaganda anyway.
Grok isn't designed to solve problems. It's designed to create sexually explicit images of children for Republicans...
As a psychiatrist, I have a theory about what’s missing in AI. First, it lacks childhood dependency and attachments. Second, it struggles to overcome repeated pain and suffering. Third, it lacks regular eating and restroom breaks. Fourth, it struggles to accept loss in everyday situations. Finally, it lacks the concept of our inevitable death. Without these nagging memories and concepts, machines will simply revert to the simpler concepts we use them for in our recent times, such as stealing cryptocurrency. After all, we live in a world run by capitalism, so it’s only logical. ¯\(ツ)/¯
As a technologist, I have to remind everyone that AI is not intelligence. It's a word prediction/statistical machine. It's guessing at a surprisingly good rate what words follow the words before it.
It's math. All the way down.
We as humans have simply taken these words and have said that it is "intelligence".
As another technologist, I have to remind everyone that unless you subscribe to some rather fringe theories, humans are also based on standard physics.
Which is math. All the way down.
I agree, the maths argument is not a good one. While a neural network is perhaps closer to what a brain is than just a CPU (or a clock, as it was compared to in he olden days), it would be a very big mistake to equate the two.
As a mathematician, it should be noted that the mathematics of physics aren’t laws of the universe, they are models of the laws of the universe. They’re useful for understanding and predicting, but are purely descriptive, not prescriptive. And as they say, all models are wrong, but some are useful
As a random person on the Internet I don't actually have anything to add but felt it would be nice to jump in.
As someone who knows a thing or two about biology I think LLMs strip away >90% of what makes animals think.
Few of countless dictionary definitions for intelligence:
- The ability to acquire, understand, and use knowledge.
- The ability to learn or understand or to deal with new or trying situations
- The ability to apply knowledge to manipulate one's environment or to think abstractly as measured by objective criteria (such as tests)
- The act of understanding
- The ability to learn, understand, and make judgments or have opinions that are based on reason
- It can be described as the ability to perceive or infer information; and to retain it as knowledge to be applied to adaptive behaviors within an environment or context.
There isn't even concensus on what intelligence actually means yet here you are declaring "AI is not intelligence" what ever that even means.
Artificial Intelligence is a term in computer science that describes a system that's able to perform any task that would normally require human intelligence. Atari chess engine is an intelligent system. It's narrowly intelligent as opposed to humans that are generally intelligent but it's intelligent nevertheless.
Here is a way of describing what I see as 'the problem':
An LLM cannot forget things in its base training data set.
Its permanent memory... is totally permanent.
And this memory has a bunch of wrong ideas, a bunch of nonsensical associations, a bunch of false facts, a bunch of meaningless gibberish.
It has no way of evaluating its own knowledge set for consistency, coherence, and stability.
It literally cannot learn and grow, because it cannot realize why it made mistakes, it cannot discard or ammend in a permanent way, concepts that are incoherent, faulty ways of reasoning (associating) things.
Seriously, ask an LLM a trick question, then tell it it was wrong, explain the correct answer, then ask it to determine why it was wrong.
Then give it another similar category of trick question, but that is specifically different, repeat.
The closer you try to get it toward reworking a fundamental axiom it holds to that is flawed, the closer it gets to responding in totally paradoxical, illogical gibberish, or just stuck in some kind of repetetive loop.
... Learning is as much building new ideas and experiences, as it is reevaluating your old ideas and experiences, and discarding concepts that are wrong or insufficient.
Biological brains have neuroplasticity.
So far, silicon ones do not.
Are you anthromorphizing word suggester into a being experiencing things?
It's fun to point at the crappy performance of current technology. But all I can think about is the amount of power and hardware the AI bros are going to burn through trying to improve their results.
Funnier yet will be if they continue to just train the model on that particular kind of test, invalidating its results in the process.
It's almost as if a chatbot isn't actually thinking.
Tell me again how AGI is just around the corner, Sam
When Sammy fuck says “we’re so close to AGI, I can just feel it. Like a tingle on the tip of my shrimpdick it’s getting so close to blossoming into something guys”, just ignore him. He’s crazy man!
Can't wait for this to be the new captcha.
I know lemmy's very anti-ai but this is really fascinating stuff.
We're anti-AI because AI is fucking stupid. Both literally and figuratively.
I can’t see AI actually being intelligent until they no longer need to send a built up prompt of guides and skills and the chat history on every submission.
It’s no different from Alexa 15 years ago with skills. Just a better protocol and interface and ability to parse the current user prompt.
In my opinion of course.
This replay is the funniest shit lmao. Keep building that bridge Claude.
https://arcprize.org/replay/0964128b-a2f5-4c5b-886e-497d893f429d
Interesting that it seems to be perceiving the environment mostly accurately, and is just completely wrong about the purpose of all the game objects.
I couldn't find replays. Are there more? Also, it is a bit funny that "building the bridge" which at one point seems to be Claude's "chosen goal" is just "running out of moves" and failing the task.
Task failed successfully, Claude. Task failed, successfully.
If human scores were included, they would be at 100%, at the cost of approximately $250
Wait, why did it cost real humans $250 to pass the test?
I assume it’s an hourly wage or something. Just because humans can work for free if they choose, doesn’t mean they have no cost associated with them. Just like a company could choose to give away unlimited tokens, those tokens still have a standard cost.
Thatvis how much individual testing humans cost when you buy them in bulk.
it's also an odd metric since only 20-60% of the humans completed it. Very 60% of the time they complete it everytime energy.
Ideally they'd run the bots multiple times through (with no context or training of previous run), but I guess that is cost prohibitive?
Yeah, this is what I was going to call out. Calling it "100% solvable by humans" and saying "if human scores were included, they would be at 100%" when 20-60% of humans solved each task seems kinda misleading. The AI scores are so low that I don't think this kind of hyperbole is necessary; I assume there are some humans that scored 100%, but I would find it a lot more useful if they said something like "the worst-performing human in our sample was able to solve 45% of the tasks" or whatever. Given that the AIs are still scoring below 1%, that's still pretty dark.
Link to the recent Al Explained video mainly covering ARC-AGI-3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4tptozUJ8Y
I tend to be anti-AI because it doesn't seem to me to be anything other than a super fast regurgitator of data. If a database can be searched for an answer, AI can do that faster than a human. However it doesn't to seem to be able to take some portion of that database, understand it, and then use that information to solve a novel problem.
Well... It cannot even search databases without errors.
LLMs just produce plausible replies in natural languages very quickly and this is useful in certain situations. Sometimes it helps humans getting started with a task, but as it is now, it cannot replace them. As much as the capital class want it, and sink our money into it.
Try spelling things phonetically (example: faux net tick alley), that's one of my benchmarks that AI fails almost every time.
If the input is at all long, or purposefully includes a lot of words about a specific unrelated theme to the coded message, it's impossible.
The humans literally didn’t score 100% though. Why lie?
You can really only judge fairness of the score if you understand the scoring criteria. It is a relative score where the baseline is 100% for humans -- i.e. A task was only included in the challenge if at least two people in the panel of humans were able to solve it completely, and their action count is a measure of efficiency. This is the baseline used as a point of comparison.
From the Technical Report:
The procedure can be summarized as follows:
• “Score the AI test taker by its per-level action efficiency” - For each level that the test taker completes, count the number of actions that it took.
• “As compared to human baseline” - For each level that is counted, compare the AI agent’s action count to a human baseline, which we define as the second-best human action count. Ex: If the second-best human completed a level in only 10 actions, but the AI agent took 100 to complete it, then the AI agent scores (10/100)^2 for that level, which gets reported as 1%. Note that level scoring is calculated using the square of efficiency.
• “Normalized per environment” - Each level is scored in isolation. Each individual level will get a score between 0% (very inefficient) 100% (matches or surpasses human level efficiency). The environment score will be a weighted-average of level score across all levels of that environment.
• “Across all environments” - The total score will be the sum of individual environment scores divided by the total number of environments. This will be a score between 0% and 100%.
So the humans "scored 100%" because that is the baseline by definition, and the AIs are evaluated at how close they got to human correctness and efficiency. So a score of 0.26% is 1/0.0026 ~= 385 times less efficient (and correct) compared to humans.