He could kill supporters and they'd vote for him harder.
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rape children...steal billions...meh.
$5 gas ...IMPEACH!
In a sane county it'd be 3-6%
I I mean if you subtract the 20 to 30% that vote Republican no matter what you’re basically there.
But another 20% will still vote for the next Republican who is not Trump. Even though the systemic Republican incompetence that led Bush II into the Iraq War is exactly the same systemic Republican incompetence that led Trump into Iran War.
35% of that is Maga. That extra one percent is more troubling. Anyone not already part of the Trump cult should be against this by now
If you want to understand how 37% can still support Trump, all you need to do is spend a day watching Fox News. It's completely detached from reality and in this Fantasy land they've imagined the president is a heroic figure and all minorities are evil extremists. The 37% get all their news straight from the propaganda machine and refuse to believe any other source is credible.
I think we all kinda know that. The next question is harder: what's the response? For the sake of discussion, let's say Dems win the presidency and the house in 2028. What can be done to address the propaganda cult networks?
Here are some thoughts:
- Full court press on conservative news:
- Modify how the press pool operates. Like Hegseth but legal and not dumb.
- Election law violations. Directing and collusion with campaigns (think PAC vs Super PAC).
- Insider trading law violations. The market manipulation is apparent.
- FCC Fair Time rule. If they want to play that way, let's play.
- Anti-trust. Break up Sinclair.
- Address the misinfo directly while avoiding "Ministry of Truth" vibes. Get lower ranking Dems on the news networks BUT
- Very publicly establish fair ground rules for on air discussions. Break the rules and the topic now becomes why the host is a propo shill
- Do a better job of getting lower ranking Dems together and being on the same page. GOP knows how to close ranks. We have a higher purpose.
- Put. Them. In. Jail.
- Why is this so fucking hard.
The big problem has always been the kangaroo courts. Anything Congress does, they’ll strike down in court, paralyzing the country.
Very little of those require Congressional approval.
MAGA has effectively neutered the courts. I'm not sure a marginal victory is enough to restore 3 independent branches of government. Also, most of the above list is above enforcing very simple laws and Judge Cannon can't preside over everything.
A more controversial item was left off: once Dems get the presidency, it must be destroyed. Rein in executive power as much as possible. It's possible that the next GOP presidency will undo this but I doubt the Dems will hold on to power for very long. There's a lot of damage to undo and the cleanup is going to be slandered at every turn.
The Dems don't hold onto power very long because the Dems don't do what you (or i) want them to do. "It's a big club and you ain't in it."
Why? Monopoly on violence from their side is my guess.
Also they play nasty. Nice people don’t. I guess that’s why things turn to shit in general.
Why would I be wondering how 37% can support him, when it says 36%? 6 and 7 don't even look similar.
Well fuck me for having fat fingers on my tiny keyboard right?
Gotta round up /s
I’ve often thought about what you suggest, spending a day watching Fox News - to gain more of a wholistic perspective on what this sect of the country is digesting. It’ll be an exercise in restraint and patience for me personally, however there’s this part of me that already knows what their coverage is like and I fear it’ll be a waste of time.
I spent about a month last year completely mired in conservative streams, for the same reason mentioned above. It was fucking awful and toxic, and it was also very informative with respect to how these people view this country. To consider any of their ideology one needs to suspend reality and most if not everything learned about history and government. I’ve never seen or felt so much fear, anger, and hatred as I did during this time. (From them and within myself)
Essentially I feel I went into it backwards, I should have watched Fox News first and then went into the conservative streams (cause and effect). But to see the end result, how this stuff actually effects people, it was an eye opener that left me with little faith and even less trust in the naivety I once held - that these people are victims of manipulation and propaganda and simply need to educate themselves about the world in order to see it for what it is. Never again. This is a choice, and what is unfolding before us is only the beginning.
I sent a full copy of the project 2025 document to a coworker because they refused to believe what I was saying was inside it. I was like read for yourself. Nope, they still trust republicans and refuse to believe.
I'm not confused by them, just disgusted.
Fox News is interchangeable with OAN, Newsmax, Breitbart, and [insert any right-wing white supremacist fascist Nazi broligarch grifting podcaster here].
They're not quite interchangeable but rather are more of a scale. They start out with propaganda that's still mostly believable but subtly wrong in various ways on Fox, but the constant hammering that they're being lied to by <insert any non-Fox news source that's left of Hitler> eventually drives them to checking out the crazier places like OAN, Newsmax, and Breitbart. Then the whole thing repeats but now the fact that reality doesn't line up with the things that they're being told convinces them that everyone is lying to them and there're conspiracies under every rock and leaf which then drives them to the real kooks over in the podcasts, talk radio, and social media. At which point they genuinely start believing in jewish space lasers and secret pizza parlor basements where people drink the blood of children, and the transformation from mildly misinformed libertarian asshole who watches Fox News into white supremacist neo-nazi who listens to podcasts you've never heard of and posts racist conspiracy theories on Facebook is complete.
You know they're nearing the end when they start complaining about how Fox News is too liberal and has been taken over by Democrats so they don't watch it anymore. At that point they're so far down the rabbit hole I'm not sure if anything short of professional psychological help is going to fix them. At this point I'm afraid that about a third of the US is clinically insane and I've really got no clue how you fix that.
There's an interesting and distinct difference in flavors of conspiracies supported by viewers of TV news propaganda and the people who doomscroll social media for news.
The Fox News viewers are all believe roughly the same brand of crazy. The social media users build their reality freestyle out of the craziest conspiracies imaginable.
There is also a huge mostly ignored, Fascist Network in "religious" programming.
Try watching the 700 Club or anything on the Trinity Broadcasting Network. Straight up White Nationalist Nazi propaganda running 24/7 completely unchallenged (likely tax free as well).

1/3rd of USAmericans are irredeemable.
Kick 'em out.
Just, uhh... don't send them to any of us. Maybe find a nice patch in the Pacific and tell them it's got lots of space, no neighbours, and is tropical. All free, but BYO boats.
I'm pretty sure we've already designated Australia as the place to send our undesirables. No take backs
Florida here in the U.S.
We only take undesirables from England, find your own deathtrap colony.
Kick 'em out.
Just, uhh… don’t send them to any of us. Maybe find a nice patch in the Pacific with 360 ocean views. Tell them it’s got lots of space, no neighbours, and is tropical. All free, but BYO boats.
Sounds like a Final Solution right out of the Nazi playbook.
If you think this is a good idea then ~~maybe~~ you need to read a bit more history books and a bit less social media.
Damn! Twarted once again...
Yeah countrys still fucked if even 10% support a child raping fraudster for president
How can it still be so high at this point?
It's the same reason Trump got elected in the first place. These people absolutely don't care about doing the right thing. They either do exactly as they're told, or they are simply obsessed with winning. As long as their guy wins, they don't care what he does.
It's insane.
Because the only media they consume is Fox News or something even further right. Just spend an hour watching it and you'll understand why they live in a fantasy land.
To them it’s all about teams.
They root for the home team cause they believe it’s about identity instead of ideas.
The cold hard truth is that they want white nationalism at all costs
Religion.
Christian death cult wishing for the end of times so Jesus comes back.
I once heard it put this way. About a third of Americans will vote Republican, no matter what. About a third of Americans will vote Democratic, no matter what. What the last third does determines what happens.
Not specific to Trump or his approval rating, but I think that the general principle applies.
Isn't it illegal to publish polls like that?
I like swimming pools. I like food more though.
Heh, always confuse those.
These are the highest fuel prices I have ever seen in my 53 years on this space rock. 100% avoidable. How anyone can still support this clown is beyond me.
FOUR DOLLARS A GALLON AND RISING LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
plz end this man's horrible existence it's the main reason I don't believe in a god.
I'm not especially fussed about fuel prices myself, but when you consider that Trump ran in significant part on isolationism and reducing prices
and Americans are disproportionately sensitive to fuel prices
this is kind of heading about as hard as one possibly can in the opposite direction, if you consider multiple interventions abroad, tariffs driving up prices, and now the fuel supply cut.
If someone supported Trump based on those points, one imagines that they might not be entirely enthusiastic about the present state of affairs.
Fuel cost impact is not "at the tank" but at the price of things that require transport. Think, food...and basically everything.
New low so far. About 27% is the breaking point low. Most people aren't hungry yet, but prices haven't yet reached their peak.
Still not zero