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It's kind of grimly amusing that before WWII, air power enthusiasts were certain that a few bombs dropped on cities would cause mass panic and the recipients would immediately quit fighting and sue for peace. Even though bombs were dropped on cities in WWI and it didn't do anything except piss people off.

WWII started and Germany dropped a bunch of bombs on London and it didn't do anything except piss people off. And then the Allies dropped 100X as many bombs on German cities and it didn't do anything except piss people off.

[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

If London were Syria (or Palestine/Iran/Ukraine/etc)

[–] TwodogsFighting 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That they still havent shut the fuck up about it?

About what? WW2 or the IRA bombing campaign or the 7 July 2005 islamic bombings?

There is an extensive list of terror attacks on London on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_London Which one do we not "shut the fuck up" about?

[–] Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't understand this post? Make london ww2 again?

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's highlighting the discrepancy between media reactions to strikes in cities in the global south versus a western city, like London.

[–] Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Imagine the response if a Muslim nation bombed a school full of white Christian kids.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So east of Europe is now called South? Hmmmmm

[–] fun_times@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"The global south" is a well-established concept that has replaced the concept of the "third world" since the collapse of the soviet union (the "second world").

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Oh dang I though it meant south of the globe, like literally.

Today I learned something I didn't like.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 14 hours ago

Yep, Australia isn’t in it despite being a continent-sized mining town.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think that happened during the troubles didn't it?

[–] horseloaf@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There's quite a bit of difference between an IED in a bucket and a bomb from a military aircraft.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Really? Because the IRA detonated 1 ton of fertiliser in one bombing, causing one and a half billion in damage.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

how would you charactize the difference?

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Military hardware causes way more destruction.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You are confusing bombs for air strikes.Air dropped bombs account for 2% of war casualties 2015-2024, IEDs 21%, air strikes 45%.

The average deaths from any explosive ordinance is roughly 20 per "event" which may include multiple detonations and mixed ordinance.

[–] Pman@lemmy.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While by number of casualties that may be correct a single military grade bomb can be something as small as a claymore on the onehand to as big as a MOAB which is designed to be the size of explosive as a small nuke without the nuclear fallout.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the moab in 2017 killed 97 people. Not drastically far from ~20

[–] Pman@lemmy.org 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Was it targeting a civilian on densely populated area or was it targetted at a military structure with bunkers and lower density when out in the open during an attack? If it was more the former case it would be closer to the early death toll of Russian missiles striking apartment complexes in Ukraine but with greater destruction. A MOAB has a destructive capacity of approximately 18k lbs of TNT and is usually used in an air burst deployment where as IEDs are more of a small grade explosive used to kill undefended civilians or unsuspecting soldiers or to take out small vehicles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43%2FB_MOAB?wprov=sfla1

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

fair points but we can only go off what did happen not what might

Another thing to consider is that the MOAB is pushed out of a plane on a wooden pallette and uses a parachute and fins to drift to its target - something that would in general reduce its efficacy in hitting targets accurately and would affect lethality too

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Casualties aren't the only factor here.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

fair but I'd argue that targeting civilian infrastructure via terrorism is actually more effective in terms of disruption to targeting military targets.

[–] horseloaf@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

I stand corrected.

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Ouch. Grammar much?