Absofuckinglutely not
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No, GTFO with tipping culture, people should be paid a living wage.
No
no.
This is a bad habit and should not bwe imported.
Prices are clearly stated including proper service.
If proper service is not included I go somewhere else
No.
Short answer: No.
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooo
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NO
No, we have a habit of paying salaries to staff
Absolutely not. Some groups are trying to do that shit here in Japan so they can stop paying a proper wage and pass off costs to consumers. It's awful.
~ someone who spent years as a tipped employee
I've heard from a friend of mine who works in the service industry over there: it's a pain in the ass for businesses due to how taxes work in Japan, as they're required to disclose the tipped money (otherwise it may be tagged as tax evasion) alongside it being divided amongst employees. What makes it worse, is that in most cases they place either ยฅ5000 or ยฅ10000 bills inside the tip jar.
Legally this is true in the US. In practice, people claim enough to hit "real" minimum wage and no one usually cares (until that tipped employee needs to prove income for a loan or something and they're screwed)
"No"
Heck no!
No, absolutely not
You mean should we normalize not paying people for their work and some customer has to chip in? Definitely not. Labour is supposed to be compensated by a wage. A tip is something that comes on top. Voluntarily. It's supposed to be a nice extra for extraordinary service or something like that. Or if you have enough money and the pizza delivery boy doesn't, but he bicycled all the way and also brought the pizza up the stairs 3 levels to your apartment. Of course you'll give them 2โฌ for that. But at the same time they're supposed to earn some wage that enables them to pay their rent.
Also has to do with taxation. If someone gifts you something, you don't really have to pay taxes on that. If it's a crude form of a salary, you need to pay taxes on it.
Absolutely not.
No.
Tipping is quite normalized, at least in Germany. Just not the american tipping culture that substitutes wages. But it is very normal to round up bills in gastronomy, or add some cash when someone went above and beyond expected service and stuff. Like when I order takeaway and the delivery is made by bike during unpleasant weather conditions (don't order during dangerous weather!).
I personally like it like this as a way to appreciate extra effort. The american tipping culture I feel encourages staff to be kind of unnecessarily subservient and guests to feel superior as the staff's income depends on a guest's mood, basically. It tips over the power balance.
No, if you want to tip, you tip, no one should force you tip. I generally like to tip, but it's up to the person.
In my view tipping is the first step towards corruption. It makes it acceptable to pay a little bit extra to get a benefit.
Fuck that shit. Tipping is a horrible practice that should be illegal IMHO.
The American tipping madness had already arrived in Europe: A week ago I was in a self service restaurant. The cashier told me to push the Green button of I wanted to give a tip.
What for? I tipped myself for carrying the trays without spilling anything...
Every European country has its own valid culture of tipping. Some consider tipping unfriendly or even hostile.
In Germany you used to gratify a special service or outstanding servers.
Sadly this gets americanized already.
How much are servers paid in Germany? Even if they received tips, is it tax free?
Depends on the business. Weโve got a ridiculous minimum wage of 13,90โฌ . Most honest restaurant collect the tips and split them, so that the cooking staff receives something as well.
For employees the tip is tax free. Businesses owner have to pay taxes.
With the most tips being payed via card (10-25% preselectable), I doubt that the staff sees any of it.
I've heard that in some American restaurants, the employer withholds the server's entire tips (aka. owner robbing them of their money just to put in their own pockets) meaning the server gets nothing. That shit is illegal in the EU if one tries to pull that off.
It is illegal but common practice.
Not unless Europe is somehow also under the illusion that they should reduce restaurant wages to a fraction of the legal minimum.
Tipping in the US is to make up for their atrocious low wages. EU workers don't face the same wage stagnation.
Whatever usefulness it might theoretically have, forcing customers to pay employees' salaries has generally been an exploitative disaster in the States, and just one more feature of late-stage capitalism. Sure, it's always possible to find some outlier jobs in which one can indeed make good coin from a tip system, but the point is that such cases are the outliers.
I worked enough shitty customer facing jobs that i feel inclined to sometimes give a tip. But just because i know it will make their miserable day on the job a bit better and not because its expected so eg the server can afford rent.