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Labour sits below 20% in the polls, Reform UK above 25%. So who cares what Labour wants, the country clearly still has a problem with gullible idiots listening to whatever Farage is spouting, arguably more so than before Brexit where UKIP was around 15%. EU should not waste time with a "Breturn" right now and instead find ways to reform so that traitors like Orban can't block everything and to get Ukraine in ASAP.

[–] xav@programming.dev 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They don't really want it. As always they want the benefits but don't want to participate financially and socially.

[–] d00ery@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Brexit vote was 52% for leave. Intelligence is a bell curve...

Anyone with any sense knew leaving a free trade agreement with our biggest trading partners, and the ability to influence the rules on that trade and standards, was a fucking stupid idea. Unfortunately it's easy to prey on stupid people.

Also, I'd argue that the UK and French/German culture and values are generally a lot closer than the rest of the wider world - we're neighbours and have a lot of shared language and history.

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

FYI: the UK can rejoin the EU but will never get the sweetheart deal they had when they Brexited

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 9 points 20 hours ago

Which I think is fair TBH. We had a sweet deal, but we fucked it up by being idiots. No reason to give us special treatment, dumb actions have consequences.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

why would EU entertain Breturn? Even if they did allow this, UK would just exit again in a few years.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Because they are a big fucking economy and we're stronger together.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Then why did they leave? I thought Brussels was stealing all the money, and if UK goes back, what will happen to the 200 million a year the NHS gets?

Buses dont lie.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You need to accept the fact that even idiots can realize they were lied to now and then. It seems like enough British idiots noticed in this case.

What on earth makes you believe that "enough British idiots noticed" they were lied to? Reform UK is at 26% in polls, was at 30% not long ago... that's double what UKIP ever had before Brexit. Idiocy doesn't just disappear, even the most naive should have realized that after Trump's return.

[–] Vinylraupe@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago

Im sure they can. Not on the get go but over time.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

IMHO, this time round, only without special treatment and only if adopting the Euro.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And they have to start driving on the right side of the road.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That would be a huge hassle for Ireland.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Starmer will have to ask Israeli handlers if that’s allowed

[–] Pip@feddit.org 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You forgot your foil hat at the pub hun

[–] a_good_hunter@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, it’s much harder to fix a porcelain vase than breaking it.

[–] bonenode@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Kintsugi could be the metaphor to use for this case

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Do you mean they should throw a lot of gold to fill in the gaps?

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 3 points 14 hours ago

It might cost time and money to fix but the end result can be beautiful. Getting there can also have purpose beyond the end result.

Sure it already was nice and functional, but if it's now broken, you either fix it or have a broken vase.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

First sign. They weren’t β€œfor” it in the first place.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bre-enter doesn't really have the same ring to it...

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago

What signs? Did they finally find Keir's balls?

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

There is no other choice, assuming they don't want to get even poorer

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most of the people who voted for it are either dead or pretending that voted remain now. Political sentiment has definitely shifted towards rejoin at some point.

Are we ready for the fight yet though? Probably not. But we can definitely have closer and closer alignment to smooth the way

[–] Pip@feddit.org 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Avoiding the fight sounds like a bad idea. It's great that public sentiment has shifted!

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Soon I think, Trump and his mentalness is hopefully pushing more and more people to the realisation that we need to be close politically, militarily and economically to our European neighbours, rather than the Yanks.

Hopefully it'll be something at the next election, it would be a very good way for Labour or others to set themselves against Reform.

Heh. News corporation says otherwise.