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To be honest this is kind of what I want from these people. Admit that they’re idiots and feel dumb for getting this shit here.
Ideally learning from this experience and being less of an idiot in the future, but my actual hopes are low in that regard.
Some people have a slow learning curve. I have to give her credit for finally getting there.
Honestly respectable. No "this isn't what I voted for", no "I disagree with this and that but overall it was the lesser of two evils"... Just plain and simple admission of having been incorrect and owning up to it.
Let's hope they do better in the future.
I don't get much hope from people like this.
They were ok with the rape, and the illegal deportations, and the pedophilia, and the elimination of public services and healthcare, the removal of any and all environmental regulations, the killing of American citizens in the streets, the genocides abroad, etc..... But "OMG GAS PRICES WENT UP A DOLLAR!?!?!?" is what counts as a step to far for these types of people?????
In my eyes there is no redeeming what they were ok with. To little to late, they can all go get fucked.
I don't know, a lot of them seem to think:
Etc.
I'd like to know what that woman thinks now, if she realizes the lies.
I'm not at all a gambler but I would wager a hefty sum that she doesn't.
I was talking to my republican neighbor, whom I've been loosly trying to unindoctrinate, she's still on board with him but isn't a complete maga loon. She's more the " I've just always been a Republican. " type. When questioned about being in the Epstein files a million times, or being found liable for rape, or any of the other million things, she just says, " well I don't know about that, I don't support that stuff. " like support is some sort of buffet where you can pick what you want.
Most of the people that support or have supported him are so shallow you couldn't drown mouse in them. From all of my experience growing up in rural deep red maga country, they're all either complete morons, complete hateful assholes, or a mix both.
"I voted for Mr. Hitler because he'd be good for the economy. I didn't go in for all that Jew killing stuff. You can't blame that on me." - German Citizen, 1946
Nah, actually talk to these people and it's pretty clear they don't care. They can't say they don't care, so when you present them evidence they just say "I don't know about any of that" and pretend they didn't see it. You walk them through, logically, without any evidence, and get them to realize on there own that Trump is evil, and it turns into this meme:
Thats why I'm curious about one that admitted to being wrong, I want to know what she thinks about those things now that she considers a vote for Trump to be a mistake.
Generic MAGA is exactly as you say, thats why I'm curious about a "no longer MAGA" scenario
I'm not even convinced these people are no longer MAGA. At this point MAGA is pretty much a ditch you die in, your family has already cut contact with you, and you've dealt more damage to yourself and your country than either can recover from. Like a ball rolling downhill, all roads lead back to MAGA for those that side with pedophiles.
Basically, she's mad about this but when he comes out and states that we won the war on Iran and have made oil free around the world and have also started world peace, she's going to be in the stands again.
Entirely possible! Thats why I'm curious about what she thinks now though, aside from her admission on camera.
I think that's potentially reading a lot from not much context. How do you know this is because of gas prices? Some of the people really are just completely mislead and believe that the "other side" is trying to convince them that these "untrue things" (that are true) are true.
It's like how people say that Hillary Clinton is the devil and eats babies. You don't believe that because to you, it's obviously untrue. But to some of these people, the thought of "their side" being child rapists is probably as unbelievable as the baby eating thing is to you. And the more time goes on, the more irrefutable the pedophilia and human rights abuses are to more and more people.
I'm not saying that's happening here, but I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt without enough context.
But maybe I'm just also not quite as exposed to republicans as others are and I'm talking out of my ass haha
I would totally agree with you if it was 10 years ago. But we have already had a Trump administration that failed miserably, killed millions of people, and had record low approval ratings.
I go out of my way to avoid Fox News and it's ilk, but I still have to deal with it. There's no way for these people to have spent the last 10 years without being exposed to differing opinions and facts that expose at least some of the lies. The people who still "believe" in Trump do it willfully. They don't want to be wrong, so they purposely ignore those things that they don't want to know. They want something that Trump provides so badly that they are lying to themselves. This is also why they are so vocal about their insanity. They have to keep yelling it at the top of their lungs to drown out the little voices in the back of their heads. The problem is Trump only has one thing to offer and that's hate.
You forget that the media they consume is hiding all of the bad stuff from them, or spinning it so it sounds positive.
For as virtuosically incompetent as MAGA is, the Conservative Propaganda Machine is an incredibly effective entity, probably because it is operated by successful business people, and not politicians.
It has been growing steadily since it was conceived by Cheney and Ailes in the wake of the Watergate Scandal, and now it has matured into a force so effective, that it has millions of Americans literally living in an alternative reality. They no longer recognize the real world, and the real world has no conception of their perceived reality. We see them living in their bubble, and now they've even stolen the power, and think they can force their false reality onto the rest of us, but it isn't real, so it will NEVER work. Even though they are in power, we can still see that they are outside of reality.
Like Test_Tickles said, they've had 10 years for outside information to trickle in, and there is no way they haven't been even tangently exposed to outside information. I absolutely do not consume any rightwing or for that matter any 24hr news networks but bits of both sides still filter in.
That's sort of what I'm alluding to. It seems to me that these people are in essentially the reality version of a casino with a painted sky. It looks and feels like outside, it's just completely controlled by the people that own the casino and crafted entirely to keep the illusion up. They watch Fox, their friends might read Washington Post, their friend's friends watch whatever else. More and more media is being bought by Billionaires that have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.
It feels like you're getting differing opinions because this guy reads this which is SLIGHTLY more moderate than that but overall it's so far more right from what things were like even 10 years ago that it doesn't really matter.
And people just don't notice.
It makes sense when you realize they were raised in a multi-generational cult where critical thinking and questioning authority is actively punished.
You mean the Rambo/Dirty Harry worshiping generation? The generation of gun welding loaners who could take on the world all by themselves? The ones that pulled themselves up by their boot straps without help from anyone?
Because I have no clue who you are talking about.
How do you know this is because of gas prices?
I would guess it is because of gas prices and it isn't clear whether this is a single issue thing ahe is really worked up over or an overall realization of his shittiness. While fun to hear, she is most likely just mad about gas prices.
Okay, hot take: people care about gas prices because it's how most people are exposed to politics. No matter how wilfully ignorant you are, you can't not notice gas prices spiking. Most of the rest of politics is opaque unless you're tuned in.
So why does that matter? Because it means everyone (with a car) knows there's another war in the middle east. So anyone who thought Iraq was bullshit and voted for Trump because he promised "no more wars" is painfully aware that he lied now.
I agree completely. I guess everyone missed the three other idiots in the video who were totally cool with all of this….
I'll believe in MAGAs' introspection and growth the instant they start voting against Republicans...
Oh, but didn’t you hear? Apparently the Democrats are just as bad.
But seriously, I haven’t been very happy with the Dems recently but most of my complaints are that they are not doing enough to stop the LITERAL FACISM that is the GOP right now.
Thats because most of them are quietly making money off of it just like the right is. Almost like fascism is a symptom of a dying empire built on the suffering of an increasingly aware and connected underclass that both parties have to work at keeping subservient or the profit vanishes. Otherwise the people might realize theyve been robbed and demand their worth.
I've been hearing about how capitalism is in decline for a while. I heard about how the republican resistance against obama was just the death roes of a dying party.
It seems capitalism much like republicans are here to stay and conquer. I honestly don't see what hope we have
None with that attitude
[citation needed]
https://www.trackaipac.com/congress
Just a quick google brings this up but there are literally bots that will trade for you at the same time as pelosi or whoever your favorite boot is. This is not secret conspiracy information.
On one hand I'm glad she is admitting it, on the other I guarantee people in her life have been telling her for 10+ years now and are already sick of her shit.
The most self awareness I've ever seen in a Trump voter.
Only took a decade to catch on.
If she had voted for Biden, the fuel prices would have been normal!
Still an idiot.
Learned nothing from Bush.
Respect. Ain’t no shame in accepting blame. Learning is failing constructively.
Nah, fuck this woman and she should be shamed. 'after a decade I realized nazis are actually bad people' (and let's be honest it's not even this deep of a level of introspection) doesn't excuse a decade of supporting nazis.
Is it good she has reached this bare minimum level of comprehension of reality? Yes.
But unless she's actively seeking recompense to destroy the very thing she helped grow, fuck her. And 'my bad' isn't 'I'm sorry for actively contributing to the destruction of thousands of people's lives'.
So what got her over the line? Gas prices going up?
I can't tell you how many people thought they were gonna get all their overtime taxes back or like a 20k dollar return from all the overtime.
There's hope!
Love my state
Pennsylvania contains a multitude. Every place has its assholes and amateurs, but it's not everywhere that puts them on tv
Where funny?
Never forgive the democrats for letting Trump be the anti-war candidate.
Democrat bad no matter what!!!! #fakeLeftistMaga
I will always call out people who blame Republican actions on Democrats in a black and white way. And I should.