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[–] Janx@piefed.social 6 points 16 hours ago

Let's see... If Putin had his way, what would the current US president be doing? Oh yeah, exactly this: manufacturing dissent between NATO members, the only thing keeping his warmongering appetite in check. 

Even aside from logical reasons, Trump is so pathetic. I cannot wait for the day we no longer have to listen to this whiny bitch...

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That title is terrible

Does it mean that he got rejected by NATO and allies to join mission, or did he get rejected by NATO, but allies will join him anyways?

I'm guessing the former, but the title makes it sound like the latter.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

It is, but to save others the work of figuring it out:

President Donald Trump says his pitch to NATO and other allies to help secure the Strait of Hormuz has been broadly rejected.

So it's the former. He's throwing a fit that others don't support the war he already declared won, complaining that "they will do nothing for us, in particular, in a time of need."

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Was this all an excuse to drum up support to leave NATO?

Trump starts war, asks NATO to help they refuse because it's a defensive pact he said screw you guys im out.

Russia profits

[–] Unleaded8163@fedia.io 22 points 1 day ago

Yup. Putin couldn't have planned it better himself.

Unless... no, it couldn't be... but that would mean... oh shit.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

There's no plan. Trump rules by whim. He's manipulable though, so maybe Tulsi got his ear.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

So the local thug just asked the police to climb through the window he just broke. The thug is a convisted felon suspected of serious sex offences against children..... He beleives that the people living there are hiding unregistered guns, despite the same allegations repeatedly made over 30 years, by his dubious little friend who happens to be wanted by other police forces. The local police note that the home ownsrs openly allow local police to come and go as they wish to check the premises. No adverse findings. Local thug then takes to social media looking for justice from his own cronies.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago

Shocker. After he's been so nice and accommodating to them.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Finally, someone said no to him.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 17 points 1 day ago

Plenty of people have said no to him. He's just usually in a position where he doesn't have to abide by it.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most allies???

Has ANYBODY said yes?

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

France has said they will once the missiles stop flying.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 16 hours ago

Not really. They said they'd be part of a diplomatic solution i think. That kinda means no really. Like if everyone agrees to stop then France will acknowledge everyone has stopped, or something.

But I am le tired

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Sorry guys, Ima gonna have to cite some MAGA scripture on this one:

https://www.thedailypoliticususa.com/p/jd-vance-blames-europeans-for-not

“JD Vance sides with France over Bush on the Iraq War: ‘If the Europeans had been a little more independent, and a little more willing to stand up, then maybe we could have saved the entire world from the strategic disaster that was the American-led invasion of Iraq,’”

...

So those who do help, you shit on and threaten, like Denmark and the UK. Those who don't, you freedom-fry them...then you keep hearing the pearls of wisdom above...looks like the only way to get some respect from trump and his toadies is to be a dictatorship and help russia/Iran. (And those who do offer actual help, like Ukraine, you reject)

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

“JD Vance sides with France over Bush on the Iraq War: ‘If the Europeans had been a little more independent, and a little more willing to stand up, then maybe we could have saved the entire world from the strategic disaster that was the American-led invasion of Iraq,’”

It'd so cute when the conservatives pretend that they are for peace and not really for wars of choice and so on. It's weird how many liberals were told by conservatives that "freedom isn't free" and "you need to support the troops" in the run-up and the early days of the Iraq debacle.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Vance is part of the weird anti-war subset of MAGA. It's why he's been conspicuously quiet on the Iran thing.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

MORE! MORE! Rejection for the orange tumor. Its what is required to get rid of him.

[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What I dont get is on one hand: americans are

  • smartest
  • richest
  • biggest military
  • most belligerent
  • most paedofilic
  • most selfish country on the planet

yet on the other hand they complain

  • why dont you like us
  • why dont you know where Idaho is
  • why cant i pay with mercan dollars
  • why cant i bring my planet killing pickup to your medieval village
  • why wont you fight my wars for me
  • give israel enough money that their citizens get free healthcare, education and subsidised housing while americans get none of it
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

why cant i bring my planet killing pickup to your medieval village

?

[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There exists cities where the streets are older than America itself.

The locals feel pressure to allow automobile traffic down these roads, and where space allows they generally do. It feels out of place.

I have been to cities like this. I have driven cars in places like this (i lived internationally for a while) and it doesn't feel right. I don't have money to travel now, but if I did, I would just walk.

There are cities that people still live in that predate the concept of street addresses and post offices and I have met them, and have had no idea what to put down on the bullshit forms at my bullshit job for their address.

The world is large.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There exists cities where the streets are older than America itself.

i think this is true for majority of cities outside the us of a...

[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Yes, and Americans know this is true but they forget how it might change their perspective of the world.

Its like that old joke: two fish meet in the ocean. The first fish says "hey how are ya, how's the water?" And the second fish says, "what's water?"

Most of the people I know are working class and can't travel overseas for vacation (if they even can afford to have one). Seeing it on TV is completely different than experiencing it.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dude, my house in Denmark is from 1779. Not quite as old as America, but i honestly believe the house will win in the end.

Pretty good odds on that one especially given that the US is more or less actively collapsing and Denmark is well Denmark. Pretty sure you would have a weirdly easy time integrating a medieval Dane into modern Denmark than an 1800s American into the Modern US, especially if it was my ancestors who would probably start robbing trains and killing Mormons again once modernity pisses them off.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Hey, I never travel without my pickup truck.

Although, I'm guessing that if there is a planet killing pickup there, then it was brought in by the host country or town.

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Nato, I like you do you like me too?

⬜Yes ❎No