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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 hour ago

Reread it. He's taking one for the team. He knows da'esh and rsf are USA creations doing USA bidding.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This guy went out of his way to suck up Trump and Trump answer was that he didn't who he was and that is was a big loser.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago

goes to show that brown nosing doesn't get you anywhere.

[–] DumbBrokeLeftist@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

This reminds me of a snippet of an article I read that was published in Peace, Bread, and Land

War is usually the tool of the financial capital fraction of the bourgeoisie. The financiers have indeed been calling for a new war, a shot in the arm for the flagging economy, and a redivision of the imperial spoils. however, at this unipolar stage, there is little redivision to be had. There are no obvious prospects for new financial colonies except for the anti-imperialist states like Iran and other regional hegemons that resist U.S./NATO/IMF capital. The empire is, very likely, contracting or about to contract unless a new war is pursued with relative speed.

I can't imagine how the US's own department heads can't see the zionist entity as being a tool of US imperial hegemony used to destabilize the SWANA region in order to inject capital more easily and in conditions more favorable to finance capital. Instead, Kent blames the zionist entity for puppeteering the whole of US foreign policy, going so far as to point the finger at them for being the reason behind the US entering Iraq. Of course, the US and Isn'treal share material interests in the destabilizing of the region, but it's ridiculous to say that the zionist entity is the real shot caller. That would be saying that the tail wags the dog. I don't know, I guess I'm surprised by what I perceive to be a lack of class consciousness of a high-ranking US statesman.

Maybe Kent's interests in US policy only extends to those that support the short-term interests of the domestic, industrial faction of capitalists? I wonder what his thoughts are on Trump's sanctions since they're examples of US policy that theoretically favor the local monopoly-capital of the US at the cost of the internationalist, monopoly-finance capital. In any way, Kent stepping down from the position is just an opportunity for the US to insert someone who is more class conscious, is more willing to bat for US policy, and will fall in line with the status quo no matter what imperialist vassal state is benefiting from the US's attempts of capital accumulation.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

At this point I'm kind of shocked that people still can't accept the obvious fact that Israel is running US foreign policy. Everyone knows that this Iran war is an absolute geopolitical disaster for the US and might very well he the end the US hegemony. And there is very little to gain for the US from it. Only Israel really wants this.

[–] DumbBrokeLeftist@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

"Israel is running US foreign policy"

It's not.

"[The US's war of Aggression on Iran,] there is very little to gain for the US from it"

The US has sooo much to gain from the destruction of Iran, both regionally and globally.

"The US is wasting their entire global interceptor supply to save Israel from retaliation."

The settler-colonial project that is Israel is incredibly important to the US, the hegemon of capitalism-imperialism. See the video of Joe Biden saying if Israel didn't exist then the US would have to invent an Israel. Also, the vast majority of Iranian missiles are not being fired upon Israel but instead the US bases scattered around the SWANA region, outside of Israel. So, most of the interceptors are being used intercept Iranian missiles being fired on US bases.

I go much further into these points, beyond the one sentence responses I gave here, in my long reply to leeeroooyjeeenkiiins comment below. The reason why I'm not fully explaining here, in my response to you, is because I don't want to rewrite or edit my reply to LeroyJenkins because ultimately, it would be the same contents. AND that's too much work.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

See the video of Joe Biden saying if Israel didn’t exist then the US would have to invent an Israel.

You mean the top AIPAC recipient whose entire life mission was being an agent for Israel and finally earned himself the nickname "Genocide Joe"? The guy who utterly destroyed the rules based order the West was so happy to hit the third world with?

At some point you're going to have to face the fact that Israel is a completely useless asset. The US has to airlift all bombs and supplies to Israel because it doesn't do anything by itself except throw the region into chaos and destroy the US relations with its actual colonial subjects: the Gulf states.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 29 minutes ago

At some point you're going to have to face the fact that Israel is a completely useless asset. The US has to airlift all bombs and supplies to Israel because it doesn't do anything by itself except throw the region into chaos and destroy the US relations with its actual colonial subjects: the Gulf states.

Their posts were keen and well reasoned. Israel matters not one whit, if the super-rich and well-positioned can find another lacky entity with designs on the whole Levant, for their own reasons.

[–] christian@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

In any way, Kent stepping down from the position is just an opportunity for the US to insert someone who is more class conscious, is more willing to bat for US policy, and will fall in line with the status quo no matter what imperialist vassal state is benefiting from the US's attempts of capital accumulation.

I'm extremely skeptical "more willing to bat for US policy" means anything beyond "isn't actively worried about being a fall guy". Admittedly I hadn't heard his name before today though, so maybe I just lack the imagination to picture someone in his position today being unwilling to "fall in line with the status quo" before this letter.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

some officials are dum-dums about capital own propaganda, they believe in it for some reason. oil execs and some business people are quite open about that real reason

[–] DumbBrokeLeftist@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, you're probably right. I would just think that it would be in the administration's interest to stock its departments and cabinets with people who think outside of capitalist propaganda.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

why? people doing the correct thing for capital can believe whatever they want, they can believe they are building jesus, they can believe they are building rapture, they can think they are bringing democracy, it's precisely in those obfuscations lies the power of murican propaganda. same for porkies obscuring exploitation with 50 theories of markets, money etc, pick your theory any theory

[–] DumbBrokeLeftist@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I guess in my head I've been thinking about it like the antithesis of, "Revolutionary Action requires Revolutionary Theory." "Imperialist Action requires Imperialist Theory." I can see the importance of any ideology that supports the status quo, whether it be an accurate reflection of reality or not, but I would think it be more beneficial to capital to have its higher-ups understand and hold an imperialist theory that's more reflective of reality. But yeah, I totally get what you mean.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 1 points 3 hours ago

For me, the kinda unanswerable question is, should i bother to explain to some zog chud skeptical of entity the reasoning and wrongness of occupied theory, and have them go oh, that’s good then

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Of course, the US and Isn'treal share material interests in the destabilizing of the region, but it's ridiculous to say that the zionist entity is the real shot caller. That would be saying that the tail wags the dog

People on the left really learned about Epstein, the extent of his influence and blackmail material, and really just shrugged and went "this doesn't matter" apparently

[–] DumbBrokeLeftist@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm not saying that blackmail of individual government officials can't have an influence on the decisions made by those individuals. But I am saying that the imperialist drive of capital accumulation dictates the material conditions that create said choices in the first place and have a far larger impact on the way Capital-Imperialism functions as compared to blackmail on elites who will never be held accountable for their actions.

Both have an influence, but one much more than the other.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 hour ago

That's a really keen observation and I wholly agree with you.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If you're saying capital in general is "the shot caller" then sure I agree with you but Im getting annoyed that people still characterize assertions that Israel exercises outsized influence on the United States as being "the tail wagging the dog" ridiculousness in light of the revelations, especially when Israel also literally acts like it's the senior partner in the relationship. It does whatever the fuck it wants and the U.S. supports it literally unconditionally. Like I don't think the U.S. is the entity choosing to shred the perceived prestige of its military and the legitimacy of its hegemony for a war Israel started.

[–] DumbBrokeLeftist@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

The actions of "Israel" is that of a sovereign Settler-Colonial project that acts within its own interests. The US is the world hegemon of Capitalism-Imperialism and its actions are determined by its interests in participating in the global process of capital accumulation. These interests are set forth by the historical process of the development of capital into a global political and economic system.

The stability of the zionist entity's settler colonial project, like that of the early US settler-colonial project, is dependent upon

  1. The destabilization of its neighboring region. and
  2. The expansion of its territorial borders to include more land for settlement.

The interests of Israel are often encompassed within the interests of global capital (The US being the world hegemon of global capital). This is much the case because the destabilization of Southwest Asia and North Africa allows for the greater penetration of capital into regions that are often seen, from the Imperial Capitalist Class's perspective, as being more impermeable and whose political and economic conditions as being unfavorable for the profitable extraction of materials and the exploitation of labor. Through the process of Israel struggling to attain stability for itself through the practice of settler-colonialism, they are creating conditions that are favorable for Capitalism-Imperialism i.e. favorable for the US regime.

Here we can see how the US and Israel can share material interests. This I am sure we don't disagree on. I hope so far that I haven't given off an air of arrogance in the way I'm setting up my point, I'm just trying to lay a groundwork.

"Israel also literally acts like it’s the senior partner in the relationship. It does whatever the fuck it wants and the U.S. supports it literally unconditionally."

The zionist entity doesn't need to be told to genocide Gaza, bomb its neighbors, and annex territory, just as the US doesn't need to be told to help with the destabilization of Israel's neighbors, the SWANA region as a whole, and the attack on Iran. This is the case because both share material interests and these actions change geopolitical-economic conditions in a way that favor the achievement of said interests for both of them.

In reference to the relationship between the US and Israel, I said it's "ridiculous to say that the zionist entity is the real shot caller." In other words, I am saying that the US is in control of itself and has a greater control of its own power and how that power is being projected into SWANA. This is not a denial of Israel's attempts to sway US policy. Instead, we can see Israel's attempts of swaying US policy, through examples like blackmail, as proof of the US's sovereignty over its own interests and power, for if this wasn't the case than why would Israel being trying to gain leverage over the US in the first place.

"I don’t think the U.S. is the entity choosing to shred the perceived prestige of its military and the legitimacy of its hegemony for a war Israel started."

For the reasons stated above the US and Israel both share the interest of seeing Iran destroyed. Iran, it's existence; resistance; and support of resistance groups throughout the region is a threat to the zionist entity's settler-colonial project. For this reason, Israel wants the destruction of Iran. Iran, its sovereignty and control of its own material resources; its unwillingness to allow western penetration into its own domestic markets; its control over strategic geography that can be leveraged against global capital (Stright of Hormuz); and the fact that, through its exercise of its sovereignty, it acts against the interests of global capital in such a way that makes it a buttress of the formation of a more multipolar world. A multipolar world that would necessitate the reduction of the US's hegemonic control and power of the global order of capitalism-imperialism. It's here that we can see that the US's war on Iran isn't just some war Israel started but is in fact a war carried out by the US for real and material purposes in order to achieve real and material interests.

As far as the US's military prestige and legitimacy being shredded, in my opinion, it is the result of several things.

  1. First and foremost, the resistance of the Iranian people in waging this anti-imperialist struggle against the US and Israeli regimes. For it is their struggle alone which acts as the rock that the US's prestige and legitimacy is being dashed upon.
  2. The tactics of Iranian resistance and the difference, particularly in the industrial capacity of Iran, that separates Iran from the US's other previous engagements.
  3. The US vastly underestimating the sheer extent and ways by which Iran is resisting against its acts of aggression.
  4. The decades of neoliberalism and its impacts on the US military's capacity to wage war, especially a war with an industrialized nation that has had decades of experience learning from the ways in which the US has invaded its neighbors in the region.

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[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Israel being trying to gain leverage over the US in the first place

  1. i ain't reading all that

  2. why the fuck are you acting like it's a constant, "be trying," dawg they gained and have clearly utilized that leverage!

What is this mind fuckery doublethought where you can literally look at a probable Mossad run blackmail operation entrapping, again, the then richest man in the world (with the current richest all but begging to become a part) as well as the current U.S. president (with very probable success on others, unless you think Clinton would never), bear witness to the numerous ways Israel does not act as a vassal (bombing Gaza isn't it, but shit like attacking Iran when it's obvious how it's going to go is) and still go on telling people not to believe their lying eyes?

Is it being so afraid of people becoming antisemitic and laying all the faults of capitalism on Israel? Because if that's the case you're just going to do the exact opposite and fucking empower that by telling people to ignore the obvious

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 hour ago

No, both their posts were solidly reasoned and well - stated, if you could be bothered.

[–] DumbBrokeLeftist@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

"i ain’t reading all that"

Whelp, can't help you with that buddy ¯_(ツ)_/¯

"What is this mind fuckery doublethought where..."

Well, I explain it in the reply I made to you, but you didn't read it...

"Is it being so afraid of people becoming antisemitic"

No. But if you want me to touch upon antisemitism, I will.

Firstly, it is not my responsibility to center the defense of Jewish people from the antisemitism that results from a fascist, Jewish-Supremacist, and Settler-Colonial project that widely uses the ideology of Islamophobia to justify its genocidal agenda. An agenda and justification that greatly benefits those who fall within the category of Jewishness in much the same way as the US agenda of settler-colonialism, justified by white-supremacy, greatly benefits those who fall within the category of whiteness. In fact, there is much to be said about the relationship between Jewish supremacy and "whiteness" inside Israel's Settler-Colonial project itself but that is beyond the point of this response. If we are to center anyone it should be the victims of Israel and the victims of US Imperialism. With this said, it is of the upmost importance, as communists and workers, to not fall into the trap of the antisemitic explanation. This is especially the case for explanations of US foreign policy.

In order to understand why there exists an antisemitic explanation that we must not fall into, we must first ask ourselves, "whose interests does it serve to not understand the motivations of US foreign policy?" The answer to this question is of course, the capitalist's interest.

Statements such as, "Israel is the senior partner of the US," "The US government is controlled by Israel," and "The US only joined the war on Iran because of Israel" are incorrect and are not grounded in a material understanding of the world. Furthermore, the logical progression of these statements leads us to the same idealist worldview that is held by the reactionaries who have always blamed a Jewish conspiracy for the crimes of Capitalism.

The antisemitic explanations for US foreign affairs clean the blood from the hands of the capitalist class; obfuscates the role of the capitalist class in government and society, to the extent that the capitalists seem to play no role in US affairs; and scapegoats the crimes of Capitalist-Imperialism onto the backs of a small ethnic minority, independent of their connection to Israel.

The US is motivated by its own interests. We should be able to identify the motivations behind US foreign policy while also understanding how the claim of, "Israeli control of the US," only serves to obfuscate the role of Capitalist-Imperialism in the exploitation and oppression of workers and the people of this world.

"you’re just going to ... fucking empower [antisemitism] by telling people to ignore the obvious"

Not once, have I advocated for people to ignore the influence of Israel on US foreign affairs.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Now that public opinion has turned against Israel, after years of concerted effort, ‘the left’ has decided to turn villification of the entity into some shoehorned antisemitic trope

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I'm sorry you think it's anti semitic to look at a fucked up web of child abuse blackmail including but not limited to the world's ~~richest man~~ former richest man (3rd edit: oh wait no Musk is in there too) and the current U.S. president and think "this has an impact on things," especially as that fucked up web of child abuse blackmail is still being visibly, actively covered up while people are watching (i.e. see "anything to do with Zorro ranch")

[–] astraeus@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

This is so fascinating to read like clearly he doesn’t actually give a shit about the mindless killing of brown people or all of the general hateful rhetoric or pro oligarch views or literally anything else. and yet, the war truly is so pointless in every way that even the other fascists think it’s a waste of time. absolutely brutal

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 55 minutes ago

He says he supported Trump in 16, 20, and 24, despite the corruption, the treason, the virtuosic incompetence, and the pedophilia. I'm supposed to feel good about him because he finally found a boundary? Fuck this MAGA dickhead.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

clearly he doesn’t actually give a shit about the mindless killing of brown people

Came here to say this; some 'veterans' pay lip service to the number of dead Iraqis, but this guy in an entire essay had zero to say on this. He doesn't care and he knows Trump doesn't either.

[–] astraeus@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Strange that he thinks the amerikkkan regime has ever valued stormtrooper lives they really are the most propagandized nation in the world

didn’t trump say they were suckers in his first term LMAO

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 11 points 9 hours ago

The gas prices really got him

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

Zionism is toast. It'll shamble along for a while because it has so much inertia, but there's no viable project anymore.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 48 minutes ago

Zionists are doing what they've done since the Bronze Age, regardless of whether semitic DNA or European DNA. Unless both groups of Zionists, plus white Christians are genocide, in the United States and everywhere else, I hardly see Zionism being "toast."

[–] greenbelt@lemy.lol 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

not gonna happen. You underestimate the power of money and lobbies.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 hours ago

Public buy-in did matter, that's why they've wasted so much money and effort and credibility on trying to brainwash people to become Israel supporters. It's why the Ellison brothers are buying up all of our media. They wouldn't bother if it didn't matter.

But it's too late. We've reached a tipping point and there's no putting the toothpaste back in the tube.

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

It's reality. Already, population growth in Israel is negative. Without Jewish population growth there's no settler project, they simply can't get people to come to their shitty ethnostate anymore and people are trying to flee (even as Israel implements controls to keep people trapped). Combine that with public sentiment turning against Israel in both parties and there's no future for Zionism.

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The first of hundreds to resign later as the true magnitude of the disaster appears.

I’ve become convinced that American politics is going to be fundamentally changed sooner than we thought. That’s not to say that it will be better, or more humanistic, or even more realistic. I just think there will be a shift in the no kings march; and a change in the opposition rhetoric, at a minimum

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 3 points 9 hours ago

nah, amerikans stay the same