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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

Its so fucking easy for em. Maybe we can trick people into liking each other.

[–] medem@lemmy.wtf 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

The book 'Freakomomics' deals, among many others, with the similarities between a corporate giant and a regular criminal organisation. In short, petty criminals risk death or prison for only two reasons: a) they feel they have no other choice and b) they are hoping, one day, to become part of the top members. That's about it. Think about it for a while and the argument is easily transposed to the '''legal''' corporate world, which also explains why middle managers tend to be obedient assholes who, instead of being mad at those exploiting them, exploit their underlings themselves.

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

"We don't want to end the exploitation. We want to become the exploiters!" - Rom, DS9 "Bar Association".

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 hours ago

50/hr guy is not welcome in my home, I don't like bootlickers and thats a bootlicker right there.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 14 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.

Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

Where I live, in Washington state, there isn't an income tax however, finally they're implementing one on people making over 1M/yr. There were people out protesting that definitely don't make 1M/yr. It's wild.

[–] krisevol@lemmus.org -2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

But where would the money come from to pay the tax from billionaires? They don't have cash so they would need to get it from somewhere.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

Why should you, I, or anyone care where they get the money from?

A simple answer would be they could sell some of the assets they have which contribute to their classification as a billionaire. If they don’t have the collateral to pay the tax, they’d be able to prove it by no longer being classified as a billionaire, in which case the goal would be achieved with another billionaire being euthanised.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Every time someone blames left vs right, Dems vs GOP, this is what I think of. It is really the consolidation of income and wealth with the very few at the top that is the problem.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Fascist use whatever ideology gets them more power. Racism today and Gay Rights tomorrow.

If you can't see beyond the propaganda you will never understand what is happening.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

no thats pragmatism, fascists believe on hierarchy of power and nothing more, everything else is pretext to get whatever they want done, much like you had suggested in the latter half of your comment.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

No that is conservative, but I see where you are going.

I had a boss years ago who owned a temporary agency, and I had the pleasure of watching him berate his two receptionists -- who made $7 an hour and who had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the success of the business -- because his monthly income from the business had dropped from $40,000 to $25,000. Meanwhile he spent his entire day playing solitaire and listening to the Rush Limbaugh show.

[–] The_Almighty_Walrus@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

The CEO of my company makes almost $40,000 a day and all he has to do is play kissyface with congressmen.

The mouse at by shared office computer still has a fucking ball in it.

[–] AceBonobo@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Can we get a picture of the mouse?

[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

The problem I see is that rich old man has a lot of cash, and governments compete globally for that mans investment dollars. If you tax him theres some euclidean point where it no longer makes sense to invest.

If you're talking about taxing a person making 1 million dollars 75% and taking away 750k is that really fair? If you're some kind of genius programmer or CEO who went to Harvard would you stay for 25%?

We need to remove the tax loophole that people like Elon Musk use, where they borrow money to avoid paying taxes.

[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

If you tax him theres some euclidean point where it no longer makes sense to invest.

Yes, that is exactly the point! That one rich person can not invest any more to screw everyone! There can still be governments, non-profits and cooperatives to invest. Only they have to invest with a multitude of people in mind.

If you're some kind of genius programmer or CEO who went to Harvard would you stay for 25%?

Yes that is totaly fair. No one can be so much of a genius to justify earning so much more. Also, what kind of asshole genius doesn't want to contribute to a better society?

[–] TheObviousSolution@thebrainbin.org 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Some people want a class war because it's an easy excuse and par for the course for a lot of the ideologies that have seeded Lemmy. Colonialism and neocolonialism have always relied on class wars to keep people fighting against each other, and unfortunately to some extent this can never be fixed because some people fall into that trap so easily.

Focusing on those entities that have excessive wealth and actively spend it to lobby against our interests while paying only for a fraction what we pay for our share can be handled through laws and legislation, no class warfare needed.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Oligarchs conduct class war by seeding division within the working class. The working class fighting amongst themselves isn't class war, and is just self inflicted pain to distract from the oligarchs. This is the message of the comic.

Focusing on those entities that have excessive wealth and actively spend it to lobby against our interests while paying only for a fraction what we pay for our share can be handled through laws and legislation, no class warfare needed.

In theory, but the whole legal system is so weighted towards people with money it's not even funny. So grass routes mobilisation/organisation seems required at this point, otherwise, the status quo continues on.

Especially in countries that have terribly voting systems (the US), but also in those where the voting systems are decent.

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 24 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

If Elon Musk finds a $100 bill in the street, it isn't worth his time to pick it up

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 20 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

Meanwhile, if your yearly salary is less than $315,360 it is worth your time to pick up a penny.

mathAssume picking up a penny takes one second. There are 31536000 seconds in a year (roughly, let's not get into leap seconds). Multiply that by $.01, the value of a penny. Then you get the salary such that across the year you're making a penny every second. A caveat to this is that even if you're making more than this you need to debate what "worth your time" means because it's still a penny you wouldn't have either way, but I think this is enough to illustrate the wealth gap.

Small edit: To add to that last point, what I mean is that it's not like you stop earning your yearly salary while you're picking up a penny.

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Unless picking up the bill stops someone from earning for some reason, most people should earn their hourly wage plus $100

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago

Is this part not showing for you or did you just miss it?

Small edit: To add to that last point, what I mean is that it's not like you stop earning your yearly salary while you're picking up a penny.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Picking up a penny takes way longer than one second! At least 5, if it includes stopping, and even longer if you check it out and put it in your wallet!

😁

[–] normalentrance@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 hours ago

Although a dog may have peed on it, so wash your hands!

source: owner of a dog that proudly pees on any foreign item on the street.

[–] Denvil@lemmy.ml 6 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I mean to be fair, you wouldn't be getting paid $315,360 for a years worth of work, you'd be getting paid $315,360 for 7.488 million seconds in a year (ish, 40 hour weeks, no missed days)

So really to have picking up a penny in one second be "worth" your time, you'd only have to be making $74,880 a year or less

[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 3 points 10 hours ago

Man, I'm not gonna math that out myself; but that sounds more realistic and I choose to believe you

[–] diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

Yeah bro I was thinking like I don’t make 300k a year and I still don’t pick up pennies…

[–] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 16 hours ago

It's always worth it when you're on the clock.

[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 51 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

How does this work when the capitalists working hours are zero? You cant divide by 0?

[–] T4V0@lemmy.pt 20 points 18 hours ago

It doesn't imply that he works for it, only that "he" makes that per hour.

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