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[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 59 minutes ago)

I plead for journalists to actually inform themselves about the subject before they write.... :o

Israel has other ways to defend against Iranian missiles during the war, including via fighter jets, but the interceptors are among the most effective defensive weapons against long-range fire. Its Iron Dome missile defense system is designed to repel more short-range fire.

They speak of Iron Dome (short range, for slow rockets from inside the atmosphere) and THAAD (high altitude, for fast missiles re-entering from space) interchangeably. And they even mention fighter aircraft, which cannot do jack in either case.

The currently relevant scenarios:

  • Hezbollah shoots unguided rockets at Israel -> Iron Dome intercepts maybe 15% of them (if the trajectory looks dangerous enough), and this costs about 10 times as much as the whole rocket salvo.

  • Iran shoots an IRBM at Israel -> the IRBM splits up in space into cluster munitions -> Israel can intercept the MIRV bus (cluster munition housing), but it's empty at the time of getting intercepted. Not much point. And doing it would cost at least 10 times as much as the incoming missile did.

A missile defense system, in this case, cannot do jack either. For this type of attack, defense is would have a point if one was expecting to get nuked, becuause a nuclear-armed reentry vehicle cannot be made arbitrarily small, and the cost of leaving it un-intercepted would be extremely tragic.

In case of these projectiles, which are conventional and unguided in their final stage, one has to simply absorb the hits. This is the cost of war. And try to find the other guy's launchers, and try to prevent them from producing more.

And I'm not shedding any tears for Israel in this case. It definitely sucks to be bombed with cluster munitions, but they started this round of fighting, killed most people who they might have negotiated with, and aren't even new to using forbidden kinds of weapons (e.g. cluster munitions made of white phosphorus).

[–] lithiumground@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] pie_enjoyer@lemmy.world -2 points 59 minutes ago

Do you want one country to bomb another?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 hours ago

You sow the wind, you reap the whirlwind.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago

How many interceptors does Gaza or Lebanon have left?

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

Remember, USA had to go in, because Israel was going to attack Iran nomatter what.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 hours ago

And this will be used as nothing but an excuse to send Israel and arms manufacturers more money unfortunately.

[–] kittykillinit@lemy.lol 18 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That's okay, Americans will buy more while their infrastructure crumbles.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 10 points 8 hours ago

As long as they don't have to give up anything basic for their people, like education, or Healthcare... wait...

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 29 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Wow, they didn't stop to check that before starting a war? That seems ill advised.

they couldn't on their vasal states to give them more

[–] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 37 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Are we supposed to feel sorry for them now?

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

I found the antisemite! /jk

[–] Pofski@lemmy.world 22 points 10 hours ago

So, basically attacking a country that has been preparing for this war for 20 years might turn out to bite them in the ass?

[–] VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world 40 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Well that's too bad.

Anyways.. Anyone have a suggestions what to have for dinner?

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Palestinians have amazing gastronomy. learn to cook some of their stuff. I make about 20kg of pittas and hummus every week for a mutual aid and costs me about 8$ per week. their food is amazing and cheap as fuck.

[–] VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Excellent suggestion. I've been meaning to try something new. Thai and Italian is starting to get boring after 20 years.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

not gatekeeping, just advice, get the best olive oil you can, ideally from a shop you can taste it. And good zaatar is hard to find, avoid any from Walmart spice rack, chances are they replaced the actual zaatar herb (Hyssop in English) with oregano. Most of their food are cheap ingredients so those two key ingredients are important.

if you try Palestinian cooking with low quality oil and oregano instead of zaatar you'll get something that tastes nothing like it's meant to taste that.

[–] VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Good advice. :)

Luckily its easy for me to avoid Walmart, I think the closest one is several thousand kilometers away. :D And I'm already a snob about olive oil so I got that one covered as well :) IIRC, theres a middle-east specialized spice/food shop fairly near me, I'll go check their selection.

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Bagels, for dinner? Isn't bagel like a thing you eat with your afternoon coffee, like a donut? I'm fairly ignorant about bagels lol

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Don't let big bagel dictate when you eat them

[–] VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I think I have never even seen a bagel. Big bagel is very inactive where I live.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 8 hours ago

It's basically bread with a hole in the middle, like a donut. Yummy, but nothing spectacular.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You’re missing out. A good freshly made bagel is extremely tasty!

[–] VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I dont doubt that. I just checked it out and its called (sort of) "water circle" in my language lol

[–] tpyo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That's awesome; I like the descriptor! They are made by boiling the dough briefly then baking

I might have to use that from now on. What's your language if you wouldn't mind sharing?

[–] Ariselas@piefed.ca 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Breakfast bagels are pretty good, fried egg, bacon, and a slice of Swiss

[–] VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I hope the Swiss was consenting to you slicing them up

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 48 points 12 hours ago

Oh no the consequences of my actions!

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

so will iran turn them into gaza soon or what

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 12 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

If there were any justice in this world...

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don't think so, the real damage is that their economy is nearly at halt, given they spent most of the day in shelters, schools are closed.

They won't. These right wingers are based around violence, a more fitting death would be to let them die with the infrastructure collapsing with US leaving middle east and their economy tanking and people going after the genociding elites.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

Gotta send them $1B I guess

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 8 points 10 hours ago

For humanity to progress we're going to need people to learn the lesson that militaristic expansion will end your civilization.

[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

i saw an interesting take the other day claiming the Iron Dome is fake, and just a fireworks show

[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago
[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 hours ago
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