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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

These age gates don't achieve their stated objectives.

What they will do is allow "KidGroomer dot com" to request an age signal from a visitor. When that signal indicates the visitor is an adult, they can provide an app designed to inform parents about how to protect their kids online.

When that signal indicates the visitor is a child, they can provide an app for connecting kids with their local van-driving puppy owner and purveyor of free candy

Perhaps having your OS announce a user's age to anyone who asks is a big fucking problem.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Here me out though, what if we try extra special hard to only put the good guys into power in this system of control? Surely then it would be fine!

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 5 points 22 hours ago

Blame Meta for lobbying for this shit.

[–] org@lemmy.org 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What we need is a new internet.

[–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

There already exist multiple, though they obviously don't have the same content or capacity as the clearnet, much like Lemmy vs Reddit.

Like, there's Meshtastic for WAN-like internet, and Yggrasil, Lokinet, I2P, etc. for multi-purpose internet.

I'd keep away from TOR though, since that's the most low-hanging fruit for those who want to peddle services or share content of questionable ethics (and likely soon also for children who don't want to deal with age verification, leave it to the politicians to blow the boiler by blocking the relief valves).

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Actually, what's the problem of IP, which isn't existent in those other protocols?

Seems a lot like the problem is called capitalism and the reason why it isn't affecting those other protocols yet is because they are not commercialised yet.

[–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

That observation is correct.

The problem is not the IP protocol, but rather the users (including corpos). The above were simply new "internets", their abstinence from the IP stack were not huge concerns when I wrote the comment.

Now, excuse my ignorance, but do the alt internets actually forgo the IP protocol, or just the IP stack? I've never tried running them directly on the hardware, so I don't know if they work without the internet backbone (eg. routing via MAC and IP).

To my understanding, they are simply layers which build on top of the IP protocol, much like clearnet itself.