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Iran tells world to get ready for oil at $200 a barrel as it fires on commercial ships (www.reuters.com)

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

At this point either Trump commits to a land invasion and we have 20 years and trillions of dollars and tens if not hundreds of thousands of American lives wasted, not even counting how many millions of Iranian lives would be wasted as well. Or Trump backs down and asks China to act as a mediator because there's no way Iran would trust Trump to negotiate.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 38 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

You know what? Fucking do it.

Inflation will really fucking suck for a while, but anything that makes renewables and nuclear the better option is going to be a good thing in the long term. Strangle the oil industry with high prices, we fucking need it.

[–] insomnia_sufferer@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

This won't just affect oil by the way, fertilisers are a direct product of natural gas, bunkering, electricity, transport, the list goes on.

The ripple effect might just pop the AI bubble. Good luck.

[–] harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Ferts can be made without natural gas, just bit more bothersome. Instead of cracking methane for hydrogen, we'll have to split water.

[–] jrs100000@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Im sure it will be great comfort to the billions who starve in a global famine while we spend decades building out the infrastructure for that.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That's probably overselling the importance of fertilizer a little. A huge proportion of the food we grow is completely wasted, rots without anyone eating it, or doesn't "look nice" so gets fed to animals who could just as easily eat other food sources. Another gigantic portion of the is grown inefficiently and stupidly for political and cultural and other asinine reasons, grown in inefficient places, or are inefficient crops to begin with. Sometimes it's all of the above, and sometimes it's not even grown for food at all, it's grown for oil. We burn it, because that's environmentally friendly, somehow. Famine is not a global agricultural problem, it's an economic problem, sometimes an intellectual property problem and almost always a political problem, it has nothing to do with lack of fertilizer, it never has been, and it almost certainly never will be. The whole system is rigged top to bottom, and fertilizer isn't going to make or break it.

[–] Ice@lemmy.zip 1 points 45 minutes ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago)

Expand graph

Estimates of the global population reliant on synthetic nitrogenous fertilizers, produced via the Haber-Bosch process for food production. Best estimate sproject that just over half of the global population could be sustained without reactive nitrogen fertilizer derived from the Haber-Bosch process.

Source: OurWorldInData

[–] harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

We're already building it out because morons think hydrogen is the future of energy.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

Bubbles pop. Letting them grow more before they pop doesn't help.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

haha, reminds me that in 2007 I was delivering flowers when gas prices spiked and I made the mistake of opining that it wasn't all bad - for basically that reason. The owner did NOT appreciate my comments. lol.

Nothing came of it or anything, it was just a little awkward for a bit. And I did express sympathy for her costs. But she could have optimized deliveries SO much better - I tried to help - but she just didn't care. Even though....... it cost her much more gas. heh

She was a good person, just a little blind about some things. :)

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Why not just go atom bomb and do $500?

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago

Friendly fire from radiation. Also, I suppose that it looks more satisfying to burn ships one by one.

[–] kittykillinit@lemy.lol 3 points 5 hours ago

That's okay, I was planning on staying home anyways.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 66 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

A year from now, after we've been paying $5 a gallon for gas, we'll find out the oil companies had the biggest record profit year in their history. Then they'll announce layoffs.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Cute, in Austria it's at 7€ now, Germany is higher. But we don't drive gas guzzling tanks.

[–] Eril@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago

Hitting 8€ in Germany now, which apparently is 9.23 USD. But I lived without a car for a long time now and will get an electric car soon, so I will "only" feel the indirect consequences 😂

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Fyi Canadians pay well over 5$ a gallon. I'm sure others pay significantly more as well.

Just explaining so you know that many people won't understand your comment

[–] MartianRecon@lemmus.org 1 points 1 hour ago

I live in Los Angeles, and the price of gas for premium is like 5.60 or higher. It's 'high' for us but not insane.

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Don't forget to convert the currency. $5 USD /gal is about $1.50 CAD /L, which is bang for Western Canada and cheaper than gas prices right now in Eastern Canada.

You're right though, those aren't the insane prices the original poster thinks they are for countries outside the US.

[–] m4xie@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

All the pumps are $1.80 for standard in my city.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

It's about 650 per gallon Canadian. I meant it's already above 5 usd per gallon

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago

Honestly fuck yeah

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 30 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

This is TERRIBLE! We paid Trump MILLIONS of Dollars and FUNDED a War with Venezuela! HOW could he Do this to US!

-Oil CEOS!

[–] EffortlessGrace@piefed.social 1 points 2 minutes ago* (last edited 1 minute ago)

[Lots of companies are eager to spend in Venezuela — except the ones Trump most needs

“The most enthusiastic are among the least prepared and least sophisticated,” said one industry official familiar with the responses the White House is receiving.](https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/08/companies-spend-venezuela-oil-trump-00716501)

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 5 minutes ago

40bn for Milei and bessenets friends. and 93bn alone just for hesgeth staycations.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 17 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

So this makes me think. Did they attack Venezuela first to get access to the oil there and prevent a price spike from happening when they attacked Iran? Or am I giving the current regime too much credit?

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 hours ago

Reminder that literally not one single major oil company wanted to be involved in Trump's plans to exploit Venezuelan oil - with the exception of the one company already there, who basically suggested they might make some very, very small expansions to their operations - because all of them thought it was an idiotic idea.

[–] JollyG@lemmy.world 28 points 11 hours ago

Considering that representatives from the Trump cabinet appeared to be surprised that Iran can and did block the strait of Hormuz, I'd say you are giving too much credit.

Also, the US is a net exporter of oil. National supply concerns are the issue so much as global supply shock. Restrictions any where lead to price hikes.

[–] jellyfishhunter@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Wasn't the Venezuela oil basically worthless because proper extraction would be too expensive to be viable?

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

Too expensive at $60 a barrel. Worth it at $200.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Not sure if too expensive but the geopolitical risk is too high.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

It's doubtful if most of the reserves can become viable at any price. (Because the cost of materials increase when oil price increase.) But some are perfectly viable.

But also, even in perfect conditions, if they started drilling right now (what they aren't), it will take several month to start getting any of it.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Well if the price goes up then it becomes feasible to extract it. Same with the oil the US has at home. They could also extract it if the price gets too high, the reason they aren't doing so now is because the Middle East oil is cheaper (well, WAS cheaper).

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Venezuelan oil production fell off a cliff starting around 2015 and has only recovered to a third of what it was then. It will take years to build industry there back up. However, once it is built back up, it will be a major exporter again.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

TBF 2015 is when the US started sanctioning.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This is fun because when does the war end? When the US says so?

[–] Janx@piefed.social 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

When our country holds Trump accountable for his illegal acts.

[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 5 points 5 hours ago

So another forever war.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Demand destruction will start happening well before it reaches $200/bbl.

Prices of $120-140 begin demand destruction and economic recessions (as 2022 showed), with destruction accelerating past $160. Transportation costs doubling will put almost immediate halts on capex planning for most organizations. I would be surprised if sustained prices beyond $160/bbl could exist for more than a couple weeks before the global economy tail spins so fucking hard it immediately stops consuming the oil supply lost from the strait of Hormuz.

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Are you sure you aren't underestimating the huge volume of demand that needs to be destroyed? I believe something like 20%-25% of demand needs to be destroyed, in both the crude and LNG markets.

The last time demand was 20% lower than baseline was during the two worst months of Covid, when the majority of people were staying inside their home

So the question is: how high does the price of oil have to get in order to force people to consume like they did under the worst of Covid?

I'm no economist, but my gut feeling says it will be sustained significantly higher than $160/barrel.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

Industrial activity was still up during covid though, with all the shortages and everything most manufacturers were still running flat out. This demand destruction would be at the very base of consumption, not driven from the top consumer.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

There's also renewables. Solar is already cost competitive and there's no way EVs aren't flying off the shelves right now

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Too late. Manufacturing and installing renewables or EV's or literally anything requires diesel.

The entire industrial supply chain is still built on diesel with decades to go before the current glacial pace of electrification makes a significant dent. A massive energy crunch is just going to make renewable buildouts even more materially constrained and astronomically more expensive, there is no way out without economic collapse. The current economic system is not designed around anything other than fossil fuels and will refuse to complete a changeover until no other options exist, which will usually mean billions of homeless starving people getting fucked over.

[–] ol_capt_joe@piefed.ee 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

So how is a local rebellion supposed to work when a fat orange won't take his short, weird fingers off the 'fire missiles at everything' button?

[–] leoj@piefed.zip 7 points 12 hours ago

the black smoke was supposed to be cover so they can organize... right?

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

Well of course our babies have been drilling nonstop since Trump arrived so surely production's gone up 115% to offset the loss of 15 million barrels per day!

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth -5 points 8 hours ago