can we stop linking to lunduke (he’s a transphobe chud)
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13 days 😂 Tell me you don't know how software development works or how operating systems are developed without telling me.
Unless someone already has age verification ready to go and wanted to be a monopoly for a while.
looks at Palantir
How on earth are they going to enforce this in smaller IOT chips? I just got an esp32-c3 for like $1.50. I highly doubt that things is able to run whatever bloatware they are going to require.
It literally only requires a single bit flag.
Hardware that can be manufactured on larger nodes can't really be stopped, and the (black) market for both old and new free hardware will be big, considering all the things that will inevitably be banned. As always, don't comply in advance
In order to “incentivize” age verification, The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has announced that they will ignore COPPA violations for software performing age verification.
COPPA prevents companies from collecting data on minors without parental consent.
Sounds like the Epstein Class is still in charge of the FTC.
Feels weird upvoting this comment. I have to remind myself. It's not you I'm mad at. You're not the one doing this. You're just the messanger.
The irony knows no bounds, the one half decent reason age verification could exists for is so these companies have no more excuses to ignore coppa because now they can just pretend everyone is a consenting adult.
The fact that there will be a signal implying a user is an adult will give all sorts of bad actors plausible deniability, perhaps even legal protection, for exploiting children, who will of course be bypassing it
Yeah, this does not sound like it's going to make our children any safer.
So this is the thing I'll eventually end up in jail for bypassing. I coul've sworn it would be drugs.
Oh well.
Yeah, the fact that I can wave to a cop walking out of a store where I just bought some pot, but might face massive fines for not doing age verification for a pong game I wrote is insane. I mean, I still want to be able to smoke my pot legally, but I also don't want to have to care about who plays pong.
They are taking the power of personal computing away from us...
I feel like there is a line coming with hardware and software and that will be the last of it's type as the move towards subscription based services is forced onto everyone. Its a shame people won't vote with their wallets. It just means I'll have my basement crammed with old tech and I'll go full old man mode and stop keeping up with technological progress.
Pretty much. They‘re essentially outlawing privacy so there will be no point in resisting. This is worse than Orwellian.
It's gonna be fun when people are sitting around a campfire talking about how bad tech ceos, wall street backed corporations, enshittification, corrupt politicians and fascism all led to the extinction of the tech golden age... as they prepare their spears to fight the next wave of machines coming to harvest them.
Accountless linux distros incoming
Can’t wait for distros to post a disclaimer that this software is strictly intended only for use on the moon.
Better yet. Say that the software isn't intended for any use at all and they don't allow you to download it, but then leave an open directory with the images
"By downloading this software, you agree you are a very naughty boy or girl."
Isn't Tails OS accountless? At least the non-persistent version.
Pretty soon you'll be hearing folks say things like "why are you worried if you don't have anything to hide" as if personal privacy has no value whatsoever. It's a slippery slope!!!
It's not a slippery slope, it's a drop into a pit fall.
Linus Torvalds is the closest thing Linux has to a manufacturer
Linux is just a kernel.
Redhat with fedora and steam with the arch based steam os will be the ones that have to implement it.
Adding that nonsense to enterprise Linux distros will be hilarious to watch.
And Steam can just sell blank hardware and let you install some distro you find on the Internet. Streetlight did that with one of their albums.
And what happens when someone forks fedora and removes it for their own machine. Who’s the manufacturer then?
I am pretty sure anyone will still be able to install a distro/fork from a free country, but steam is unlikely to go this route because convenience is part of the package. They may not even care to resist because they already ask your age for the steam store.
I am more curious what this will do for non standard devices with multiple users. Even kitchen equipment may run a derivative of linux these days and they don't come with keyboard access.
I hadn’t even thought of those. Are Samsung fridges going to verify my age?
You will have to show ID to prove you are of age to drink if there is alcohol in it if you want to open it. No ID, no fridge access.
You're probably writing that on a device that has a secure boot chain. So far it was there without strict enforcement, but once the manufacturers decide you only get your shit signed if you implement $ARBITRARY_ORWELLIAN_GOV_RULE, you're pretty much fucked.
You mean I can voluntarily not participate in society?
BRB installing Linux everywhere.
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Everyone who was casually onboard with this because it felt righteous can fuck off.
Downboats for Lunduke
Dumb phones are about to get crazy popular. I miss my Pebbl.
Brazil is not requiring OS level age verification. This information is false.
@danielbp@lemmy.ml @qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de @technology@lemmy.world
As pessoas já lhe responderam, mas permita-me aqui fazer uma ênfase:
Lei nº 15.211 de 17/09/2025
[...]
Art. 2º Para os fins desta Lei, considera-se:
I – produto ou serviço de tecnologia da informação: produto ou serviço fornecido a distância, por meio eletrônico e provido em virtude de requisição individual, tais como aplicações de internet, programas de computador, software s, sistemas operacionais de terminais, lojas de aplicações de internet e jogos eletrônicos ou similares conectados à internet ou a outra rede de comunicações;
[...]
Art. 9º Os fornecedores de produtos ou serviços de tecnologia da informação que disponibilizarem conteúdo, produto ou serviço cuja oferta ou acesso seja impróprio, inadequado ou proibido para menores de 18 (dezoito) anos de idade deverão adotar medidas eficazes para impedir o seu acesso por crianças e adolescentes no âmbito de seus serviços e produtos.§ 1º Para dar efetividade ao disposto no caput, deverão ser adotados mecanismos confiáveis de verificação de idade a cada acesso do usuário ao conteúdo, produto ou serviço de que trata o caput deste artigo, vedada a autodeclaração.
https://normas.leg.br/?urn=urn%3Alex%3Abr%3Afederal%3Alei%3A2025%3B15211
Ou seja: não será uma caixinha pra selecionar a data de nascimento, ou um botão "sim, sou adulto", porque ambos seriam "auto-declaração". Em outras palavras: validação facial ou identidade (reconhecimento facial via terminal do Linux, could you imagine that?!) pra usar a porra de um computador. E considerando que aplicativos e websites são sine qua non pra muita coisa essencial a fim de se "viver em sociedade" (contas bancárias e Pix, carteira digital de trânsito e outras identidades digitais, gov.br que agora exige autenticação de dois fatores, etc), sendo vedado portanto o Luditismo pelas dinâmicas sociais, sinceramente... pra mim esse mundo e essa minha existência já extrapolou meu limite existencial e, se minha Deusa Mãe Lilith quiser, vou-me logo logo simbora desse pálido ponto azul de uma vez por todas!
O pessoal que tá dizendo que vai instalar outros sistemas operacionais que não Windows e Linux (como, por exemplo, @potatoguy@mbin.potato-guy.space mencionou TempleOS): essa lei afeta todo e qualquer sistema operacional porque a galera lá de Brasília não entende de ciência da computação (como vai ficar o Alpine no Docker, outras formas de virtualização como QEMU e VirtualBox? Será que computação em nuvem vai virar "coisa ilegal" que nem VPN virou no DesReino Unido e que também já tem precedente de definição como "ilícito" em algumas decisões do Supremo aqui no Brasil? (não entro no mérito dessas decisões, estou simplesmente lembrando que isso já ocorreu)).
Mas é lei, sancionada pelo Excelentíssimo Presidente da República Federativa do Brasil, Luís Inácio Lula da Silva. E tudo indica que passará a ser policiada e fiscalizada daqui duas semanas.
Eu falei de meme kkkkkk, mas vou procurar uma distro 100% livre, talvez ir de vez pro GNU Guix, e se der nunca mais interajo com nada proprietário ou de serviços online, hostear minhas coisas em casa mesmo, como esta instância da qual falo.
Vou precisar mostrar minha CNH pro meu próprio servidor? Acho que não, pelo menos não tem como saber, a não ser que a polícia viva dentro da minha casa.
I checked again at the law and it seems it says operating systems directly.
The law and a review for the federated world made by another user that I'm not remembering. (It's in portuguese)
Edit:
CAPÍTULO IV
DOS MECANISMOS DE AFERIÇÃO DE IDADE
Art. 10. Os fornecedores de produtos ou serviços de tecnologia da informação direcionados a crianças e a adolescentes ou de acesso provável por eles deverão adotar mecanismos para proporcionar experiências adequadas à idade, nos termos deste Capítulo, respeitadas a autonomia progressiva e a diversidade de contextos socioeconômicos.
Only products or services that are directed at children or teenagers or with probable access to them should do age verification.
[...]
Art. 12. Os provedores de lojas de aplicações de internet e de sistemas operacionais de terminais deverão:
I – tomar medidas proporcionais, auditáveis e tecnicamente seguras para aferir a idade ou a faixa etária dos usuários, observados os princípios previstos no art. 6º da Lei nº 13.709, de 14 de agosto de 2018 (Lei Geral de Proteção de Dados Pessoais);
The App Store providers and terminal operating systems should:
Give proportional, auditable and tecnically secure ways to do age verification.
But what's a terminal operating system in this context?
Who knows? Probably not even the legislators, but I'm already seeing every judge accepting this as everything that's on a computer, the smartphones being represented at the app store obligation.
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Whether it is or is not doesn't really matter, none of the major operating system are developed in Brazil so there are really no consequences for ignoring the law, what are they going to do, ban all computers? Good luck with that.
Redhat has a huge consumer, the Brazilian government, a lot of developers are in brazil, etc. Cachyos (the distro I use) seems to not want to do anything, but when the law enters into action, it's easier to just block all brazilian ips, like my computer updating. As the government can sue and do other things.
É verdade. Que país bosta.
please don't get this guy any attention. he is a far right conspiracy theorist.
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