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[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 61 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

A lot of committed vegans I know don't sweat over it if mistakes are made on the "vegan" menu. They advise the staff politely, discarding what they can by hand and eating that they can't. Wasting a meal makes a mockery of the point of being a vegan in many ways.

This teenager possibly gets it. Dad is intentionally overdoing it. There is a lot we can learn about how to do better politics here. Perfection is the enemy of the good.

Edit: Obviously allergies and diseases are a whole other thing. There is a reason getting it right is still very important, but if that's the case nobody is messing around, especially not Dad.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

My wife has a milk allergy. Depending on the ingredient, it can go pretty bad. If they put regular cream in something, she might need to use her EpiPen.

There's no grumbling or clarification that works. The server will almost always write down no milk, no cheese. Half the time, the kitchen will forget, mix up, or ignore it; sometimes, the server grabs the wrong thing from the warmer.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Without knowing your location many if not most restaurants in US will only allow allergy meals be delivered by a manager. When I worked Buffalo Wild Nuggets the manager would have to prepare and deliver the allergy meal. It keeps the customers more honest when it isn't just a server taking the blame.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, US, It's super rare for her to be taken seriously. I don't think we've had a manager come out for an allergy in 8 years now and that was vacation at Disney.

More often, if they try, they'll send the waitstaff back out to complain that she can't have the meal because there are eggs in this or that when she was clear about it being milk, they want to tie it into dairy and for some unknown reason, eggs are considered dairy.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Yeah, why ARE eggs dairy? Just because milk products and eggs are both refrigerated? (in the U.S.)

AI slop has frustrated me in my search to find out. I don't need 100 hastily-generated pages telling me that eggs aren't actually dairy. I want to know why they are in the dairy category!

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

It's likely because eggs are usually found in the dairy section, and people are stupid.

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[–] moobythegoldensock@infosec.pub 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have a milk allergy as well. I know her pain.

My I recommend getting into Asian food and trying vegan restaurants? Way less potential for accidents.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

Oh we've been dealing with it for a long time now :)

She does a lot of vegan places when she can, when she can't she tries to pick stuff that's unmistakable.

For the most part it's mexican food and subs where she gets screwed, it can be hard to tell crema from mayo and cheese from mayo

[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Oh I certainly agree there are people for whom it's serious. That's not this meme.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Assuming you are willing/qualified to be a spokesperson for vegans:

When you encounter a menu item marked "Vegan" and discover that it isn't, do you often speak to the manager to advise them to either remove the label or change the recipe?

I'm not vegan, but I often mention menu mistakes to the server/cashier in the hopes of helping a future guest.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think they were talking about the line cooks making a mistake, not the menu being fraudulent.

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[–] doug@lemmy.today 49 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I remember hearing a dunk on vegans a while back that went “how do you know someone’s vegan? they’ll tell you.”

but in my experience it’s more like “how do you know someone hates vegans? they’ll tell you.”

[–] TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Of course vegans will tell you, it’s a dietary restriction.

If you’re even halfway intimate with someone, you’ll likely share a meal or cook for them.

I’m not even vegan, but this particular phrase annoys me hahaha.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Its a catch all punch down cliche for anything where people are trying to improve themselves or the world around them. See crossfit or Linux as other major examples. Its often that they see someone being passionate about something and mocking them for it.

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[–] ziproot@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

how do you know someone’s vegan? they’ll tell you That statement reads to me the same as “how do you know someone has food allergies? They’ll tell you.”

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[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sounds like Dad's heart is in the right place.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

He's either trying to help and overdoing it to embarrass her (a responsibility of us dads) or he's overdoing it to support her publicly and loudly (which is good but annoying).

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Vegans aren't a problem. Why would you care about what another person chooses not to eat?

Holier-than-thou vegans with pamphlet level arguments they force upon everybody are a problem.

Thankfully there aren't too many of those around. Less than Jehova's Witnesses, at least.

It does seem like America in particular has a cult of people hating on vegans, and I gotta ask; why do you think you're better than them, if you're expressing the same attitude as the worst kinds of vegans?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (54 children)

A lot of the vegan haters are uncomfortable with the moral issues with meat consumption and rather than seriously work through their feelings and try to figure out where they stand they just mock those who make them uncomfortable and conflate them to the most annoying of the group.

Very similar to people who haven't worked out their religious trauma hating on even decent religious folks

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Person: "Vegans won't shut up about being vegan"

Vegan: embarrassed sigh

Person: "They're constantly telling me about it."

Vegan: hiding behind something

Person: "I just don't get it! They've got leather clothes. Where do they think wool comes from? Protein is nutrious! Are they too good for eggs?!"

Vegan: Slinking out the back door

[–] spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I swear, the whole "You know if someone is a vegan because they'll be sure to tell you" thing is a total myth. Never seen it once in my life.

[–] chaotic_ugly@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

2010s, OMG they were everywhere. It was just a thing. Veganism became super trendy and people hopped on the bandwagon. Now that it's not cool anymore, most of them have hopped onto another bandwagon or have aged out of chasing trends altogether. But they're always out there. Right now, I hear a lot about K-Pop, Formula 1, and... third places. That last one catches me off guard because I have a related degree and when I was in school the concept was relatively obscure, so it catches me off guard, but in a good way (I work in a museum which charges for entry).

Anyway, eventually enough pretentious attention-seekers hop on the bandwagon and annoy enough people that they become the subject of ridicule. They move to the next thing, and the OGs get to be the butt of the joke for a generation. It blows.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

That girl has to shut up about her veganism no one cares but she constantly brings it up. /s

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

The one time it's completely appropriate to tell people you are vegan is when they ask what you want to eat...

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Sounds more like a teenager problem than a vegan problem

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Hahaha, my parents do this too. I don't get what perverse satisfaction they get from it

[–] rImITywR@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I forgot that dragon roll is a real thing for a second, and thought that the joke was implying eating dragon is vegan.

Also, doesn't a dragon roll usually have shrimp in it?

[–] YaksDC@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Every dragon roll I have ever had has had lobster and at least one other fish in it. No cheese 🤮

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is dad being an asshole? Or is dad being a dad and intentionally embarassing her?

His face and volume suggest asshole, like he's actually causing a scene.

But I could see this as having been a much less loud/angry encounter, with dad basically giving his daughter shit by being as dramatic as she is at home. And this whole encounter is being told through the daughters perspective, who inflated the scene/comic.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

My take is that he's being well-meaning but overbearing, based on the "it's really important to her" comment.

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