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[–] emb@lemmy.world 105 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Hopefully this initiative sticks, sounds like my next phone (eventually) might just be Motorola/Graphene.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

As long as they have basic shit like NFC or wireless charging. One of the main reasons I stopped buying them. 2nd was the tablet sized screens.

[–] DarkSirrush@piefed.ca 27 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Because its grapheneos you will likely have NFC, but whether you have tap-for-payment options will be a crapshoot, especially in North America, unless having an official vendor changes things with grapheneos's play store integrity issue (which is doubtful).

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Best shot is that EU will make it possible, as they distance themselves from US tech right now.

[–] DarkSirrush@piefed.ca 4 points 2 months ago

Its an issue that, currently, banks have to resolve by either developing (see certain EU banks that have done so) or supporting an NFC card management app that doesn't require the highest level of the google play security thing to function.

I doubt EU legislation can fix this, and I doubt Canadian banks will care enough to do anything to support anything beyond apple pay and google pay.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Tap to pay is whatever but I do use NFC for some home automatons.

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[–] excursion22@piefed.ca 4 points 2 months ago

I quite like my Razr. I'm sure if they're aiming to be a true alternative to the mainstream OSs, they'll be including many of the mainstream features

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[–] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 54 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Good, good. Next, tell me there will be a 3.5mm headphone jack, swappable SD card, and user-replaceable battery and we'll be golden.

[–] ernest314@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

their phones do tend to have that already...

e: at least the lower end ones I've had

[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So interesting to me that it's the lower end phones that have the features I want

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[–] prex@aussie.zone 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

There will be a 3.5mm headphone jack, swappable SD card, and user-replaceable battery.

[–] mikedd@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Help, I have turned to gold and cannot move or turn back.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

You bastard!

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[–] lmr0x61@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 months ago

Damn, Motorola may really make a comeback with this!

[–] Kriznick@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

Whelp, looks like I'm going to Motorola

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 28 points 2 months ago

Fantastic. Excellent news! I would expect nothing less.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 24 points 2 months ago

Well yeah. I doubt the GrapheneOS team would allow anything less.

[–] v4c4@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Probably a long shot, but I wish they added a headphone jack and sd card to these phones. These features would also benefit privacy.

[–] Addv4@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Actually, a few of the Motorola phones do have headphone jacks and sd card ports, like the moto G. Which is why I'm really, really hoping those are the models supported.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've specifically heard that it's going to be a flagship chipset at first, especially, so it definitely won't be the Moto G line. I've heard it's going to be closer to the Moto Signature, which is like 3.3 Monero.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If they don't release this with a phone that has a headphone jack, they are dumber than a box of rocks. Motorola hardware is flat out not great, but the fact that their G line has a headphone jack and is one of main draws and the only reason I've bought them for my kids. If they do release a GrapheneOS compatible phone with a headphone jack, I'll likely end up buying a few of them for the family and it will be my go to recommendation to others.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I personally might not use a headphone jack or SD card slot very much, but for the market that a GrapheneOS phone would be targeting they seem like OBVIOUS things to include.

The crowd getting excited about this partnership is pretty much the same crowd that complains about features like those going away.

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[–] Tapirs_Are_AI_Slop@lemmy.org 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I've finally accepted the death of the 3.5mm jack. But no sd card is bullshit.

E/os is working for me tho. Realized I don't even need microG to have permissions for anything other than notifications and all my stuff works. All I really miss is the ability to chromecast music.

[–] FrankFrankson@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I will never accept the death of the 3.5mm jack. I refuse to buy wireless ear buds as I know I will lose them. I need my tiny ear speakers to come with anti-misplacement cord technology.

[–] Addv4@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I mean, I use Bluetooth headphones on my phone most of the time, but I do still require a headphone jack as a backup. I used a phone without one for a while, and decided I need one on future phones, as well as a micro SD card (I need more than a tb of storage for my music and audiobooks).

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

FWIW, I thought the same thing. But then I bought some cheap Chinese buds and never lost a single one. I'm on my third or fourth set and still haven't come close to losing one.

Though I still won't pay for the premium priced ones.

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[–] Tapirs_Are_AI_Slop@lemmy.org 4 points 2 months ago

😆 I do use a dongle anyway. Even if I bluetooth it, I'll have a DAC/Amp with a jack.

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[–] mr_anny@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 months ago

Holy Hell!

This definitely will be on my shopping list. At the top. I hope they bring to all devices and not only higher end.

This news aligns quite well with the Levovo T series ThinkPad repairability.

Other major tech companies sail towards more and more closed environments.

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] gnate@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Oh, they will.

[–] DigDoug@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

It's nice to get confirmation, though I really can't believe it had to be said. Sign of the times, I guess.

If they release one with a headphone jack I'm 100% sold.

[–] razen@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

One of the main thing id size of phones, pixel has a series which are comparitevely smaller but I dont know if Moto has any small phones. If only moto make a small phone too, it will be awesome

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[–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 8 points 2 months ago
[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 8 points 2 months ago

When is it gonna come out?

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Please make this the industry expected.

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Will banking apps and NFC pay finally work?

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Doesn't that depend on google play services? If so, "probably not, but then again it works currently if you install play services on a separate user profile (or on your main, defeating the purpose of grapheneOS to begin with but more power to you)."

Tell google/banks to stop requiring the spyware, they won't but at least it's better then telling the secure OS to install just a little spyware just so you don't need to carry a wallet.

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[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 6 points 2 months ago

Stop, I can only get so erect

[–] Aberration13@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

How long have they been selling devices that use graphene?

[–] XLE@piefed.social 8 points 2 months ago

This will be a first, if the plan materializes.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago

I expected no less.

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