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[–] archonet@lemy.lol 142 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

the fact that Gabe said "piracy is a service problem" fifteen fucking years ago, and none of these fuckwits in content distribution have learned this at all is a source of continuous astonishment to me.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 99 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I havent pirated a single game since i installed steam 20 years ago

There was a short period of time where netflix was good enough so i didnt pirate movies or tv shows either

It's 100% a service problem

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Same story here.

Loved Netflix at first. I used to pirate a lot of tb shows and movies and then completely stopped once Netflix became decent.

Then they turned to shit and I'm back to pirating.

But not only that, I'm actually PAYING to pirate content because its a service that just combines all content from Netflix, Disney, apple, etc into one singular app that you can stream from any android device with the app.

It can have pretty shit quality sometimes, but at least I can watch it.

I will pay for shit if it's easy access.

Fuck Netflix, Amazon, apple, Disney, etc. greedy fucks.

[–] starik@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] archonet@lemy.lol 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The last game I pirated was Driver: San Francisco a couple years ago, because you couldn't (still can't?) buy it anywhere except for like, second-hand physical media, and I am not going through that hassle. I can't even remember the game I last pirated before that (Probably Sims 4, because fuck EA and fuck that laundry list of DLC -- but I can't be sure).

Music, movies, and TV shows, though? Oh yeah, baby, that's a weekly activity now. Netflix I dumped many years ago when the fracturing of content to twenty different streaming services happened, and Spotify I dumped just this last year for a few different reasons (the CEO donating to AI weapons programs, introducing a fuckass AI DJ, ICE ads, getting fed up with songs I either can't find or can find but aren't available in my region, or could listen to and enjoyed and then having them suddenly become unavailable, etc...)

I'm sure, someday, Steam will enshittify. Probably shortly after Gabe dies -- and it will be a dark day for me and millions of gamers worldwide. But for now, I'm more than happy to let Gabe empty my wallet with sales and convenience, because the gettin's been good for a couple decades and will likely remain so for another couple. I can't say the same for music, movies and TV; I don't know if I'll ever end up paying for them again unless the distributors involved sort their shit out.

[–] PatrickYaa@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

At least, Steam has some pretty good followers should they enshittify. Gog, humblebundle and epic are all poised to take over should steam shit the bed.

They aren't quite there yet, but at least you don't need a subscription for any of them and can just add them to a unifying launcher like heroic etc.

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I get stuff on Gog sometimes. They do some things right (no need for a client, no DRM stance, good compatibility support, chasing down lost rights for old games).

But unfortunately they can never get more than scraps from the big publishers because those will never agree to release their newer games without DRM.

And let's be clear, I wouldn't want them to go back on this, but that will make it hard for them to compete.

Interestingly, at the beginning everything on Humble was offering DRM-free options too. And then after a while they gave us some bullshit about their policy not being "DRM-free" but "DRM-agnostic", which means, publisher can choose whether to use no DRM, or DRMs. Such a strong policy, thank you Humble.

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[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The only games I pirate are those that either :

_ are completely abandoned by their publishers and literally unavailable through other means

_ are stuff I already bought long ago and this is the most convenient way to get them to run (I have occasionally bought games again if it was cheap and convenient)

_ have turned to such shitty business models I don't want to give a cent to the publishers (and I almost don't even do that one anymore since usually they've found a dozen more ways to turn the game to shit anyway).

So yeah. Totally agree with the service problem.

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 14 points 3 weeks ago

In the grand scheme of things, they don't really care about piracy.

Yes, they could greatly reduce piracy by making their service affordable, available, and convenient ... but they would lose more profits from doing that than they currently do from piracy. They know enshittifying their service will result in increased piracy ... but they also know that it will result in extracting increased money from the people who do pay. And, overall, their profits are still higher despite the higher piracy levels.

(Heck, in some ways piracy has been shown to be overall beneficial. To some degree, it's free advertising, helping media spread through word of mouth. And maybe while they missed out on a media sale or subscription, they still end up making money from that pirate with a merchandise sale or something.)

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[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 41 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I tried to buy digital copies of an album the other day and couldn't because it was only on streaming services and DRM'd to all shit, so I just pirated it instead.

Ended up with some high quality flac too...

[–] gilokee@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Have you tried Soulseek? I finally got it recently, it's kinda amazing. Like old school limewire or whatever but with fewer (no?) viruses. :3

[–] pilferjinx@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah soulseek is amazing. You should check out nicotine+ if you're using Linux. It's a very nice frontend client using the same network.

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[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago

Yo ho ho. If purchase is not ownership, then piracy is not theft.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Completely relatable. The prices keep going up with more and more restrictions while being enshittified with ads, tiered service, and paying twice to watch something - the streaming service fee and then a rental fee on top of that, for a movie that might be a decade or more old.

Arr…fuck that.

This is exactly why people fled cable. It was completely predictable the streaming services would enshittify just like cable.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

Wife and I live in Germany, but still have some streaming services from our home country in Eastern Europe.

We started a Scream movie marathon on the weekend to catch up on the series, before we watch the newest one in cinema.

We watched the first 2, and half of the 3rd on 28th February Saturday on one of the streaming platforms (SkyShowtime). The next morning (1st of March), the movies were not available anymore.

We finished 3 and watched 4 on Amazon Prime, but within that we had to start a separate subscription for horror movies.

5 was only available in German with no subtitles, so I had to search for another source. Ended up creating a Paramount+ account, downloaded the app, and watched the movie there.

Then back to Amazon Prime, where finished the 6th Scream movie, before heading to the local cinema.

This was the last straw, we decided to go back to sail the seas after a decade of streaming service subscription. Next weekend I will take some time to figure out the setup we need to make this happen safely, as a lot has changed since I left it behind.

[–] parzival@lemmy.org 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If you want online streaming: fmhy

If you want torrenting, make sure to bind vpn to client

If you want media server, use jellyfin with arr stack

Happy sailing :) 

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[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Use Jellyfin. I have been running it since the middle of last year and it has been amazing and stable. Have fun.

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

"The content isn't available in your region"

You have the content. I want to watch the content. But nooooo, I have to turn my VPN on and pretend I'm somewhere else, and you know I'm not really there because I can't magically materialize half-way across the world in 1 minute.
So what's the point? Just let me watch the damn content.

I'm sure these region locks make a lot of sense for the suits when it comes to paying royalties and shit but as a consumer it's just infuriating. Archaic ass bullshit.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Its tied to royalties, which you mentioned, which are usually tied to archaic trade deals. The landscape may change after WW3 is done.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 17 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The new one is: This streaming service is owned by one the most evil people on the planet, and it comes included with my phone plan, but I'm just going to pirate everything anyway, just because Fuck Them.

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[–] NecroticEuphoria@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I turn full pirate at the first stage already. I despise ads so much.

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[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Enshitification is the word

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[–] MattR@feddit.org 12 points 3 weeks ago

In instances where there is no legal way to watch something piracy hurts nobody as the company would not have made money from me anyway. It doesn't even hurt the artists, the refusal of the distributer to offer content worldwide is the real scandal that everyone in the creative industry should tackle.

[–] Mantzy81@aussie.zone 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

One thing that I will enjoy with the slow demise of streaming is that the current generation will git gud at IT again. It's kinda shocking, as an older millenial/xennial, how bad some of the Gen Z's I work with are with basic IT tasks whereas X's and M's are fine with it as we've had to deal with Napster and Limewire

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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (9 children)

Okay I gotta disagree partially on the third panel. I'd much rather have the option of purchasing individual movies or shows than having a subscription. Like, imagine we had Steam but instead of games, it was shows and movies? That'd be great. Imagine the sales! PatientWatchers amirite?

Unfortunately it's rarely possible to actually purchase, and definitely not without any DRM. So the third panel should really say "This show is not available for purchase" or only mention renting or specify that it's with loads of DRM or whatever.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"purchasing" media you mean.

Unless they let you download the file without DRM, you're just renting the video with extra steps. We have seen many times that "purchased" videos from digital vendors gets revoked and the "purchase" is gone.

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[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Add to this, "this service will only stream in 480p on Linux"

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[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Do what you want, cuz a pirate is free

You ARRRR a pirate!

[–] presoak@lazysoci.al 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Or

Here is everything the human race made so far. All the movies, music, books etc. Download whatever you want.

Yes, pirate is better

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

The difference between 20 years ago and now is companies have been slowly setting up all the dominoes to make piracy nearly impossible in the near future. I don't think people are aware of how screwed we really are.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Make it impossible how? I've been hearing similar claims for about three decades but have yet to see anything definitive happen.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

With the proliferation of age checks, we're only a couple steps away from "age checks aren't sufficient to protect our children. We need ISP level whitelisting of sites that obey the law."

And then if VPNs manage to get around that with any reliability? Well, be ready for the hardware you need to take advantage of it to double every couple of years while the component supply is strangled to death.

Also, moves now to give OPERATING SYSTEM level "age verification" to any site that asks, which will ABSOLUTELY not be done to identify individuals. No sir. Not at all.

The past 30 years have been DRM. The next 30 are gonna be "You can't access the tools you need to even think about it anymore."

[–] MolochHorridus@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

We’ll be trading them drives then, yarrrr.

Piracy was a thing before the internet and it will be the thing after the internet.

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[–] starik@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What’s a good source for a noob to learn how to pirate?

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

The following advice does not apply to piracy, it's just general torrenting advice for downloading legally available content.

  1. Install qbittorrent.
  2. Use a VPN (windscribe has a free tier) whenever qbittorrent is running, even in the background, even when you aren't downloading. Make sure qbittorrent doesn't run on startup, it's in settings. This makes sure nobody can see that your IP is torrenting perfectly legal content, for privacy.
  3. Find a torrent. If you go to the pirate bay (top result on duckduckgo), be sure not to choose any copyright protected content, as torrenting that would be illegal in most places.
  4. Search for your legally torrentable movie/show and press the magnet (or copy the magnet link) next to the torrent with the most seeders (SE)
  5. paste the link into qbittorrent, optionally select "download first and last pieces first" and "download sequentially", if you want to watch while downloading.
  6. Always check the file extension of any files before opening - mp4 etc is safe, don't run any .exe files. There is malware out there, especially in torrented games.
  7. Be nice and keep seeding torrents after downloading
  8. Enjoy your legally acquired content!

There's a piracy comm on lemmy at lemmy.dbzer0.com.

(If any mods don't want advice for legal torrenting here, apologies and feel free to delete my comment)

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

be sure not to choose any copyright protected content, as torrenting that would be illegal in most places.

🤣🤣🤣

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[–] Encephalotrocity@feddit.online 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Make sure qbittorrent doesn’t run on startup, it’s in settings

In Advanced settings there's the ability to bind to a network. Bind to the vpn and qbittorrent won't work at all without the VPN engaged.

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