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Heard an ad for this pledge the other day while I was listening to a podcast and immediately thought this has got to be propaganda.

As somebody who has been struggling with a chronic health issue while continuing to work full time, I can understand why somebody would want their employer to be more understanding of how unpredictable chronic conditions can be...

But for fucks sake, the stress of work and people viewing your value based on what they think you should be doing for them is really the last thing people should be dealing with on top of being sick. Most people are forced to keep working just to survive and keep their health insurance.

Out of curiosity decided to look into the company that started this, and I have to say, their track record really doesn't help change my initial reaction.

Ad giant Publicis Health agrees to $350M settlement over claims it helped fuel opioid crisis

https://www.reddit.com/r/advertising/comments/1o049v3/publicis_exposed/

an ex-Publicis employee just exposed all the wrong everyone in this industry already knows. discrimination, retaliation, bad managers etc

Qorvis, a U.S. subsidiary of Publicis, has represented the country of Saudi Arabia since the September 11 attacks and has been accused of helping to whitewash its record on human rights.[27][28] More recently, the writer Ken Klippenstein obtained leaked documents from Qorvis, which show the PR company pitched a private company on a four to five minute propaganda video, which hoped to improve the reputation of its Homestead, Florida shelter for "unaccompanied alien children"

Based on their other controversies, they sure sound like typical corporate scumbags who profit from and enable fascism (and likely sex trafficking of children) while gaslighting the public and insisting any critics are just being dramatic/blowing things out of proportion.

Immigrant Youth Shelters: “If You’re a Predator, It’s a Gold Mine”

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 5 hours ago

You grow up, pay attention I'm school, get a college degree, maybe a masters, just so you can make a lot of money as a Professional Turd Polisher.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

As somebody with Crohn's and a very understanding boss, this security is really important imo. I haven't always had an understanding boss, Ive lost jobs due to time out recovering, Ive been scolded, laughed at, and generally misunderstood.

I don't really like working, but the revolution isn't coming tomorrow, and work is what allows me to do all of the other things that bring me joy. My current situation has me so thankful. Some days I just don't have the energy to really put in the labor, and my Boss doesn't give me shit about it, even though it's his lost production. Some days I can't even come in at all, and never once has he questioned me. I think part of it is that we have a deeper relationship than boss/employee, but another is that when I'm healthy, I work my ass off, because I really enjoy what we do and want my friends business to succeed.

If I could know that my need for chaotic schedule changes, Dr appointments, bathroom time, ect would all be not just met, but also not questioned, because it's known that I AM dedicated to the job besides my condition, I would be much more comfortable applying to larger workplaces.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I'm definitely not arguing that workplaces shouldn't be more understanding of chronic conditions. Legal protections exist for people with disabilities and chronic conditions for a reason, but even with these protections we should be doing more to legally protect people and their jobs.

However, getting people to sign this pledge doesn't seem to really accomplish anything other than serve as an advertising campaign for this movement and help spread misleading propaganda that working after being diagnosed with cancer is in the best interest of the individual battling cancer.

In reality, people battling cancer or any chronic illness seem to have better outcomes if they continue to have a sense of purpose during treatment, but a sense of purpose is not inherently tied to working or employment.

Given that this is an advertisement company with a documented history of peddling harmful corporate propaganda (fueling the opioid crisis, whitewashing detention centers for children) as well as a reputation for mistreating their own employees, this really comes off as typical (for them) predatory corporate propaganda aimed at normalizing people being pushed to continue working until their bodies physically can't keep going, and claiming that doing so is actually beneficial to their recovery.

Almost like they saw opportunity in the crisis of rising cancer rates, increased public policy aimed at government deregulation, and workplace protections being stripped away from many individuals? Which given their history, doesn't really seem implausible.

Interesting but definitely not unrelated sidenote: States like W.V. and KY were hit especially hard by the opioid epidemic much earlier than the rest of the U.S. because pharmaceutical companies targeted coal mining areas with similar propaganda, and this is the company that helped them do it. They knew people there commonly suffered debilitating back injuries while working in the mines, and peddled prescription opiates as a solution that would allow people to continue working pain free even after being injured.

Ad giant Publicis Health agrees to $350M settlement over claims it helped fuel opioid crisis

"For a decade, Publicis helped opioid manufacturers like Purdue Pharma convince doctors to overprescribe opioids, directly fueling the opioid crisis and causing the devastation of communities nationwide," said New York Attorney General Letitia James. "No amount of money can compensate for lives lost and addiction suffered, but with this agreement, Publicis will cease their illegal behavior and pay $350 million to help our communities rebuild."

Opioids and Appalachia

When Purdue Pharma began marketing OxyContin to physicians in 1996, Appalachia was among the first regions that the company’s drug representatives visited — in part because its physicians tended to be frequent, high-volume prescribers of opioids. On any given day, Purdue had eight to 10 OxyContin sales representatives working in West Virginia. They “descended like locusts,” said one journalist, exceeding the deployment in similarly sized markets.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 hours ago

For some people, it's a legitimate angle on coping with mortality and disease. I agree that it sounds especially ghastly and self-serving coming from the mouth of this organization.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago

There is truth to people using work to cope, but the way they write it indeed feels they're too happy about it

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago

Definitely dystopian, yes. It's your classic "Go work, you're not ill at all" bullshit. I recall the story of a mum who had to work while having to undergo stressful chemo, being in the hospital. All because if she took more than a few days off, she'd be ineligible for health reimbursements etc.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not really. Humans like to work. We like it so much that if we don't have any, we'll create it (hobbies).

Staying busy so you don't dwell on your diagnosis isn't a bad thing, and the social aspect of work is important to the mental health of many.

This is different from capitalism saying you have to work or you die.

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago

There's a difference between wanting to do/create something and wanting a job, in a capitalist sense

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But consider that a hobby is voluntary. When you have a job, you have deadlines, obligations, etc. And that all creates stress which hobbies don't.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Some people actually like their jobs.

This isn't advice that's going to work universally, but it's not dystopian.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It seems that having a continued sense of purpose is helpful when it comes to suffering from any chronic illness.

It feels a bit disingenious to imply a sense of purpose has to be tied into your employment, and coming from an advertising agency with a shady history shifts it from disingenuous to dystopian.

I honestly enjoy my job sometimes, but it is very stressful and there have been many times (like right now) that I should have just taken paid leave that I have earned over the years and was entitled to take, but didn't. Even now I have to continue working for several complex reasons. Some of these reasons are just general long standing problems of the American work place, but many are hyper specific to America in 2025-2026 vs America in 2021-2024. One being the fact that if I just suddenly left in the middle of a project, it would place a financial burden and several downstream consequences on other people that could be catastrophic to them.

The stress of having to continue working while I should be on medical leave and avoiding stress, not only has taken an unnecessary toll on my health, it's made me really dread having to go to work. I've never been a gungho let me die for my employer type, but I've accepted the downsides to my current job because there are (or at least used to be) more positives than negatives, I'm good at it, and it's sometimes really interesting and exciting.

Being forced to continue to poorly perform a job i'm just physically not able to continue doing, at the moment, has made it a really miserable and stressful experience on top of the misery and stress of the chronic health issues that I have been trying to resolve.

I'm not even dealing with the burden of cancer, but if I was in my current situation while dealing with a cancer diagnosis, I would be even more outraged at the suggestion that channeling my resources and strength into forcing my body to continue going to work while it's under attack, instead of focusing on recovering and navigating the hellscape that is American healthcare, is somehow in my best interest. Frankly, it's insulting.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Then the advice isn't for you. Like I said, it's not universally applicable.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

right? it's not for me either, but i'm not somehow personally offended that it works for some

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, I like being able to do what I want. And a thing with lots of restrictions isn't part of that.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 23 hours ago

Alright, then the advice isn't for you.

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

But that's also exactly why a lot of people like it. When you have a hobby, it is really easy to just not feel like doing it. When you're being told by someone else what to do, and when, some people feel some relief that it's someone else taking control.

People be weird. I know a lot of folks that kept working years after they could have retired, and it's cause their job wasn't stressful, but it gave them structure that they wanted in their lives.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

I thought our society would get better with people being able to get by without work if needed. At my age and with my wifes health issues I wish I could do ad hoc work like gig stuff and substitute teaching and know it would work for us being able to live that way. I had no problem working most of my life and even working long hours but situations change and we need some support now. But no a large part of our society wants to go from the twentieth century to the nineteenth century rather tha profressing to the twenty first.

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 2 points 1 day ago

There are many aspects of work one could consider. For me, the social aspect is a big one. I have been in sick leave for a while now, will likely be home for a while longer, and I honestly miss the social net that work gives - both friends, friendly coworkers and unrelated coworkers. Plus there daily structure, the feeling of accomplishment and “being an active part of society”. Those are all important mental values that work provides and that can help while dealing with a long term illness.

This being said, there is a gradient between encouraging people to work while sick because out provides mental health benefits and forcing people to work while sick because otherwise they’d be on the streets without health insurance… And providing easy ways to work part time should be part of the equation.