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The lawsuit aims to "stop Valve from promoting gambling features in its games, disgorge all ill-gotten gains, and pay fines for violating New York\u2019s laws."

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[–] me_myself_and_I@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They should sue Epic Games because Fortnite greatly popularized loot boxes and Microtransactions. Also other games which are the real culprit such as Overwatch, League of Legends, and more. Though granted Valve did make CSGO which was one of the first big games to popularize buying and selling video game skins. But of course lots of other games do it much worse like Gatcha games and mobile games.

[–] Jeremyward@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Can start with the OG loot boxes of Magic the Gathering amd Pokemon? So much gambling & its targeted at children.

[–] SweatyFireBalls@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

The fun part is that a lot of trading cards have their roots in the early movements for cigarettes. Same idea for the most part, except it was typical for pinups instead of monsters or magic. You bought tobacco to get the cards, so tobacco became popular amongst kids. If you wanted to collect em all, you would buy more boxes of cigarettes, so imo it's even more of a parallel than just calling out TCGs

The fact that the idea swapped to hooking kids on gambling is honestly a no brainer, especially since the cards were the things helping sell the cigs anyhow.

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago

Lotta billionaire sucking in this thread. Just because you like his platform doesn't make GabeN a good person.

Everyone say it: There's no such thing as an ethical billionaire.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Reminder: this was Epstein's idea.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, but who do you want the NY DA's office to go after? Jamie Dimon? Bill Gates? Steve Bannon? Half of Activision/Blizzard?

Valve was the obvious choice.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 points 11 hours ago

All of them.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 15 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

A good few years ago now, I watched as my two cousins, Steam voucher in hand (and he didn't even have a gaming PC btw), faffed about with one of those sites promoted by shady Youtubers.

Codes went in. Buttons were pressed. Glances were exchanged.

"Now what?" asked the younger one who's Steam voucher it was.

"Oh nothing," said the older one. "You lost."

I think it was only teenage emoism that stopped him bursting into tears right there.

He's an accountant now, so I assume he learned an important lesson about gambling that day.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

He's an accountant now, so I assume he learned an important lesson about gambling that day.

Or it fully broke his spirit.....

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Why not both?

I've never been a gambler because I've only ever lost. I'd say I'm down ~$30 in the last 30 years.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not really a gambler either. I've been to the casino a few times in my 20s with friends, but either for one of their birthdays or they were celebrating something. I only ever brought like $50 to drink with and another $50 to play with, knowing full well the most enjoyment of that hundo I was getting was the beers.

I did however win exactly once. Turned my last $10 of the 50 into $900. And that was also the last time I ever gambled.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I did once have someone give me a roll of quarters and I walked out with $70. I figured the only reason I won was because it wasn't my money.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago

I mean, that's pretty sweet!

It's like me and lotto tickets. If I buy one, I lose every time. If someone buys me one I win either a free play or the value of the ticket....then lose on the free play

[–] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

I enjoy low stakes gambling. I'll walk into a casino with $20-40 bucks for gambling, buy a few drinks, and see what I can get. If I win enough to break even and pay for the drinks, I came out on top. I'll throw 5 bucks down on a parlay during Football season once a month or so. Outside of that, I couldn't imagine the stress of higher stakes. I do it for fun and maybe turning 5 bucks into 30.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Not for the House. It's sort of their bread and butter.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 2 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Valve doesn't make the games. You'll need to take this up with the game developers. They're the ones who inserted the "surprise mechanics" into the game.

[–] oerpi@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 13 hours ago

this is about Counterstrike loot boxes, so Valve absolutely makes the game in question

[–] me_myself_and_I@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Valve did make CSGO and other games in the past which did have heavy microtransactions though yes I do agree that other companies such as Epic Games are much more liable for this

[–] ghurab@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Is this a joke or did you not read the article?

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Finally someone standing upto Valve for the right reasons.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago

They're not wrong, it is gambling.

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

country finally starts cracking down on gambling

oh no wait nevermind they just want to sue a videogame company

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 46 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Finally a lawsuit against valve I can support.

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[–] kugmo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Interesting how this just happens after Valve wins against the Rothschilds in court, despite the lootboxes being available for the past 10 or so years in Counter Strike and Team Fortress 2.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Valve wins against the Rothschilds

Okay, tap the breaks. Can you field a link on that one?

lootboxes being available for the past 10 or so years in Counter Strike and Team Fortress 2.

In a lot more games than that. EA, Ubisoft, and Activision/Blizzard have been dolling out lootboxes for at least as long. So targeting Valve exclusively definitely raises some eyebrows.

But I'm curious to know what this has to do with "the Rothschilds" and not an actual financial, business, or government entity.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If this stops loot boxes in general I'm all for it... can we also ban the sale of suprise toys also then because its the same thing as this...

Fuck we can go maximum carnage and stop the sale of card packs like pokemon and mtg and everything else as those are loot crates also

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This wouldn't "stop loot boxes" though. They aren't bringing in EA, Activision, Epic, or any other big company pushing loot boxes.

It feels like they are trying to specifically target Valve until they go public and get controlled by the same BS financiers that run the rest of "the market".

My tinfoil hat is getting a lot of use lately. :(

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Yeah it's bullshit, you can't say some of the least toxic and manipulative loot boxes are the problem... I understand valve is one step on the edge of evil but for the most part they have used that power to help control the gaming industries greed...

If this goes through I can see them banning any games with loot boxes from steam or some petty shit like that which im all for...

Let people buy the things they want...

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