The only way my views have changed over time is that, more and more, I'm convinced that nothing I do affects much of anything beyond my own neighborhood. I have no illusions about significant national change, but I can keep my own block clean and take good care of people here.
Showerthoughts
A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.
Here are some examples to inspire your own showerthoughts:
- Both “200” and “160” are 2 minutes in microwave math
- When you’re a kid, you don’t realize you’re also watching your mom and dad grow up.
- More dreams have been destroyed by alarm clocks than anything else
Rules
- All posts must be showerthoughts
- The entire showerthought must be in the title
- No politics
- If your topic is in a grey area, please phrase it to emphasize the fascinating aspects, not the dramatic aspects. You can do this by avoiding overly politicized terms such as "capitalism" and "communism". If you must make comparisons, you can say something is different without saying something is better/worse.
- A good place for politics is c/politicaldiscussion
- Posts must be original/unique
- Adhere to Lemmy's Code of Conduct and the TOS
If you made it this far, showerthoughts is accepting new mods. This community is generally tame so its not a lot of work, but having a few more mods would help reports get addressed a little sooner.
Whats it like to be a mod? Reports just show up as messages in your Lemmy inbox, and if a different mod has already addressed the report, the message goes away and you never worry about it.
my sister told me public transportation is how the government is going to limit mobility and "15 minute cities" are bad.
i asked, have you ever used public transport? she said no. I asked if she could afford a car, she also answered no.
"but public transport is a means to limit people from traveling so they can trap us"
i almost hit her.
Thats literally the talking points people like Alex Jones aka the Far Right.
Your sister is dumb. I live outside of a major city, it's faster and cheaper for me to ride my scooter to the train and ride the train downtown. I also don't need to pay attention the whole ride so there's some uninterrupted gaming time as well. As a bonus my employer pays for 80% of the train fare too.
My car mostly just sits there waiting for the weekend.
I found that my stress level about getting to work on time disappeared. Unlike traffic, I can’t make the train go a little bit faster by screwing over other people on the road. There’s no competition to save one minute off my drive. Once you’re on the train, you get there when you get there. There’s a certain Zen appeal to that.
I agree that public transport can be less stressful (not always, making a connection between the perpetually 20 minute late bus and the train was stressful for me even if I had no control), but just as food for thought for those of us currently with commutes that aren't public transport friendly — over the years I've found that driving like an absolute maniac only saved me a minute or two even over fairly long commutes, compared to driving calmly and courteously.
Leaving just slightly earlier led to much less stressful drives for me. I'm not talking 10-15 minutes, but even 5 minutes earlier would let me drive calmly, safely, and get to work faster than being an asshole with 5 minutes of extra sleep.
Sounds like a take straight from one's dumbass social media algorithm. Imagine not having a car and also being anti-public transportation.
You must have endless patience, Madz.
When right-wing people see the statistics that educated people are more likely to be left-wing, they apply the obvious incorrect logic that 'education is indoctrinating our children'.
The simple fact of the matter is, that in high school, college, and university, I was exposed to people. I played sports with people from every culture, shared classrooms and completed group projects with them. I was taught by people with different cultural backgrounds and I can promise, not a single word of it had anything to do with politics.
Meanwhile, the uneducated are born in their small town, they go to work in their small town, they are surrounded by the same people they went to high school with (presumably from their own cultural background) and ultimately, they listen to mass-media telling them that X people are bad.
And if you explain this to them, they'll still say that you're brainwashed.
I grew up fairly socially isolated. I was always taught as a kid and younger teenager that people different from me are bad, that X type of people deserve bad things to happen to them, yada yada conservative bullshit.
Then I got older. It's hard to see X type of people as the bad guy when they're treating you with more kindness and less judgement than everyone you grew up around and when you realize that they may be different from you and want something different from life than you, but they still just want to survive the day and find happiness, just like you.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379422000312
This study has presented new analysis of the causal effect of higher education on political values, finding that individuals become less authoritarian, less racially prejudiced and more economically right-wing due to achieving a degree.
Higher education seems to make people libertarian rather than left wing.
People who can't engage with logical reasoning or evidence without resorting to intellectual cop-outs to defend their positions can't be helped.
The older I become the more progressive I become. I remember when I was a conservative little shit and am glad I ended up growing a brain.
The really just thought the brainwashing would eventually take. They didn't know it also requires years of lead ingestion
Boomers at least had a reason to go through this development because they were still able to accumulate some wealth. With a good job in the 80s-90s it was possible to invest into assets that have by now exploded in value. That does make some people more inclined to hold on to the status quo.
Anyone after Gen x on the other hand has little reason to hold on to a system that keeps screwing them over.
I think that, with boomers, you’ve got something special happening: boomers were brainwashed by Reagan, by neoliberalism.
But it’s also worth pointing out that the evidence shows a clear trend: hard-earned wealth is tied to progressive values.
Broadly, richer people who worked for their wealth are more progressive than poorer people. Note that THIS IS TRUE LESS AND LESS THE MORE THE WEALTH IS SOURCED FROM EXTRACTIVE PRACTICES. But, assuming the wealth was earned from work, it holds true. The effect work-wealth has on progressive values is multiplied with education and interconnectivity from living in cosmopolitan spaces or having access to the internet.
FWIW I’m a genx who did well and I didn’t grow out of it.
I know the system is rigged, I don’t want to hoard anything, and I want to live in a world where everyone does well.
People that change their values because they make a lot of money don’t actually have any values.
Same. I live small with little, I choose to recycle and not waste, I underconsume. I work to help others. Progressive and proud.
It pisses me off when those around me complain about the young, if the young can’t build lives they have nothing to conserve.
Exactly. Conservatism is not really very strongly correlated with age, controlled for other factors. But it is correlated with various things that are themselves correlated with age. Like wealth. And family status.
they were still able to accumulate some wealth
Right, and they became “conservative” because they want to hoard it for themselves to the detriment of others. They mentally regress to a selfish two-year-old.
Wealth is like the One Ring to Rule Them All..to most people. The second they have it in their possession it takes over and they turn into Gollum, unwilling to let it go and very happy to do almost anything to retain or bolster what they have.
Interesting podcast on this subject: https://srslywrong.com/podcast/ep-346-does-parenting-make-you-more-conservative/
The conclusion they come to is that becoming more conservative with age generally only applies to low information apolitical people who are sort of vaguely left leaning when they're young. As they age they become more entrenched in the system, acquire more wealth, etc, and those vaguely conservative ideas they had in the back of their minds become more pronounced. There's also the overton window shifts that may mean someone who thought of themselves as vaguely liberal in the past may now consider themselves socially conservative in the current climate.
In fact, if you look at the evidence, the reality is the complete opposite: generations are becoming more progressive because they're getting better educated and they understand the world better.
question I guess is, will the trend reverse when education gets worse?
My prediction is that it will and that this is why the education system is being degraded
Don't predict, rely on that being the case for several decades now.
You know that fucker you grew up with but no longer talk to?
Wonder no more. It's been effective, act accordingly.
I think so, yess.
As an oldster who becomes more progressive (and shorter) every year I have to disagree.
Same for me.
Me three
Four!
And pretty vocal.
Every conservative accusation is a confession.
Former fascist/conservative here, the whole "you will grow out of progressive politics" is both a Reagan-era lifestyle marketing gimmick, and a passive ultimatum saying "you either cease your progressiveness or you won't live to an old age".
What changed you? If I may ask
Basically I was lured in (or "ideologically groomed") to fascism, and as people around me started to go more mask-off, I thought I need to leave ASAP or I cross the point of no return. Then I had to learn that conservatism wasn't about "moderate nationalism" but "power for power sake". Then I had to learn, that communism wasn't bad because of the lack of nationalism but due to the authoritarianism part. So first I became an "edgy liberal" to address the "rampant political correctness" of "the left", then I learned that socialism can be much more than Kádár-era work morals and the secret police torturing people until they admit to horrible crimes.
Reminds me of that quote „one who isn‘t leftwing in youth is heartless, one who isn’t rightwing when an adult is thoughtless“ (say only old men that smell their own farts)
Wow, I was coming here to say it was a churchill quote, but I went down a small rabbit hole and apparently it not only wasn't him, but it wasn't a few dozens others it's been attributed to: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/02/24/heart-head/
Morals and compassion are unAmerican tbh.