"Why wouldn't I use verification? I've got nothing to hide".
This. This is why you do not submit willingly, regardless of what you have to hide. Fascism doesn't give a shit if you're innocent.
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"Why wouldn't I use verification? I've got nothing to hide".
This. This is why you do not submit willingly, regardless of what you have to hide. Fascism doesn't give a shit if you're innocent.
Using Microsoft teams at work, it keeps on asking me record a voice sample and selfy so it can identify me in meeting , yeah no thanks
And then your coworkers think you're IT challenged because you don't even know how to do the simplest things. (true story)
My company just mandatorily implemented “Windows Hello”
No one seems to be able to tell me why the information from Microsoft says the fingerprint and face scans are both “local only” and may take 24 hours to sync after initial setup. Where are they syncing to?
(I opted for the ‘pin’ method instead of surrendering my biometrics.)
"If you have nothing to hide, why are you wearing pants? Why don't you tell me your password?"
I wear pants to protect my password! No, please! Don't hit me in the password!
Depending on context my favorite answers to 'Why do you need privacy if you have nothing to hide ?" are
"I need privacy, not because my actions are questionable, but because your judgements and intentions are.",
"Arguing that you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say." - Edward Snowden,
and "The only difference between a wizard hat and a dunce cap is the wide brim of privacy."
ETA: None of which a fascist will give a shit about, but can be useful in politer society.
My favorite is:
"So take off your pants. Right here, right now."
Gets the point across quickly and viscerally.
Whether there's "nothing to hide" is an assessment made by the fascists and not by the people giving out information.
And then a new president comes into office or just changes their mind and now something that used to be innocent is now a violation. Luckily the government recorded everything you ever said and did, so knows exactly who to arrest.
"We have determined based on the shape of your nose that you are Jewish. Please follow us to the nearest train."
“We have determined based on the shape of your nose that you are not Jewish. Please follow us to the nearest train.”
Well, now I see why there was an avoid OpenAI movement. They actually allowed Persona to create an internal database of their users and may be a potential AI provider for gov surveillance.
Since when did OpenAI started using Persona, and is it widely known that they use it ? Does anybody know? I used their service way back at gpt 3.5 days, back then you didn't need any verification.
What's next, some kind of psychological profile based on the bumps and grooves of my skull?
Godamn will y'all stop writing their next steps out for them to create the newest dystopian hellhole update
I see that your profile indicates some reservations about synergizing with the Torment Nexus but have you considered the value it brings to the shareholders?
Must collect .00000001% more dollars per unit, it's only billions of lives after all
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What's next is that they are going to guilt you in to accepting it because it's "to save kids from pedophiles and if you don't fork over your ID, you're either helping pedophiles or you are a pedophile yourself."
And it's going to work. You're going to go along with it.
Reddit implemented this for brits months ago and there has been no mass exodus. They all forked over their IDs to save the kids. They're probably all stuck on Discord too assuming everyone who's leaving is a pedophile. Once KOSA and EARN IT pass here in the US, we also will go along with it, to stop the pedophiles.
"Won't somebody think of the children?"

What? But Discord pinky promised that pictures would stay on my system, and be deleted immediately after verification. Are you implying that they lied? Pikachu shock face
This title isn’t what the article says at all. There’s a secondary system completely separate from persona’s main system, that is seemingly tied to openai and government systems, most likely tied to ICE.
"This person looks like they might commit a crime in the future. You guys should go arrest him before that happens so we can 'zero out crime' in our neighborhoods."
The neighborhoods where crime has been 'zeroed-out':
Robinhood also uses Persona and may not allow you to transfer money out without providing ID and face scans.
Jfc, I mean I was guessing that something like this was going on behind the scenes. But I guess it’s reassuring to see it out in the open.
It seriously gets worse the more you read and hear about their “verification system”.
Why can't people just go down to their local shop, show their ID like when you buy alcohol, and buy some kind of age verification token/code which can be used with online services?
because that would be sensible and privacy-friendly, and our governments are controlled by fascist pieces of shit that want to have full control over us.
Cause the goal has never been to prevent underage access it’s to create a database of troublemakers and brown people
It really occurs to me that this emphasis on surveillance (Palantir, this Discord stuff, the cameras everywhere, etc.) really shows how afraid the billionaire class is. They're trying to identify those that are getting uppity to try and prevent organizing, which they hope would quash revolution. They know people are angry; they know they've been looting and pillaging; they know they've been denying access to badic things like food, housing, healthcare; and they know they work for hostile interests. Yet, they're going to keep on doing it. They even have a new police force.
It never works though.

The government has the names of prolific pedophiles and all they do is protect these rich and powerful child abusers.
Any claims that they're doing stuff like this to protect kids is complete bullshit.
Will they even bother trying to rebrand this or just pretend it doesn’t exist?
Discord stated that it will not be proceeding with Persona for identity verification.
I opened Microsoft Solitaire on my phone the other day and the fucking thing wanted to age verify me. Over on the desktop the same thing happened in MS App Store. The stupid part? I've had this Microsoft account for so long that it legally qualifies as an adult in its own right.
We should all just take pics of our taint and send that in. Malicious compliance.
They'll just forward the data to the butthole database; we still lose ✨
Playing the entire Bee movie to reporting hotlines for ICE worked for a bit. Let’s kick it up a notch.
... to combat online child exploitative material, fentanyl trafficking, romance fraud, money laundering...
How is romance fraud at the same level as child exploit or money laundering? These assholes want to take full control of the world population.