You know I really doubt this.
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Yeah, i'd say it was only true "at one time, for some people." e.g the upper class in 1800s britain and america.
I think the historical norm can be derived as follows:
Long ago, say medieval times, people probably took off their clothes more often and nudity was more common. People bathed in rivers in public in those days, they needed to work in water sometimes (hence would show knees from hoisting up clothes) and probably chose to take their thick clothes off during sunny harvest days.
Historic accounts actually say that women would go shirtless, i.e boobs literally out, to relieve from heat during outdoor labour - this was the case in some parts of japan in the very early 1900s and some parts of Britain in 1800s. In Japan towns women went fishing together, in britain it would have been farming groups if i remember correctly.
The exception to this historical reality is localised to industrial-era elite, who preferred to button up tightly and show absolutely no skin (except for face). I suppose it might also be the case for men living in countries where burqas and headscarves are the norm for women, but those countries are still the same way today.
men and females
🙄🙄🙄
~~men & women~~
~~males & females~~
men & females
It does feel kinda weird, right?
Idk what this comment means but yeah, that’s the point of the original comment. Neckbeards who call women “females” are weird
What's wrong with calling men males and women females?
Literally nothing. If anyone thinks using the terms male and female together is wrong then they are an idiot.
woosh
Read this whole thread. No one in this thread is saying man and female is normal. They are saying male and female is.
Can you articulate what’s wrong with using the terms male and female? Or are you more of a braindead, one word comment kind of guy?
Really? You read the whole thread?
Talk about brain dead lol. Maybe you’re missing the tip level comment?
Excited to find out what super generic insult you have lined up as a comeback to this once you see that comment :)
Please point out what comment contradicts what I said. I’ll wait.
https://piefed.blahaj.zone/comment/3437757
I assume you’re trolling at this point if you’re pretending that you can’t scroll up in a thread lol.
Also, dude… “I’ll wait”?
Please try tactics that aren’t out of the Kindergarten version of “how to be an asshole online”
It objectifies women
You could say men and women or you could say male and female. Just don't mix them together.
It objectifies women
By what logic?
They aren't lab rats
That's not a helpful answer.
At one time, a man seeing a female fully naked was the equivalent of a man seeing a female today too... because, you know, everyone was fully naked all the time, clothes hadn't been invented yet...
NSFW
The knees? Are you high? The ankles.
Not even that. It's a myth. Most skirts were short enough to show the ankles because nobody wanted a muddy skirt.
I appreciate your well actually here. I would just like to point out for future reference that any comment containing the question "are you high?" like that is most likely tongue in cheek.
The ankles? Looks nervously in the rough direction of the middle east You mean her face?
Some countries still don't allow women to show their faces because its "indecent exposure" morality laws or whatever 🤦♂️
I mean, we all know that women are just...completely covered in skin, right? They've got it all over them.
I've got an even bigger secret: Men are too
In men it's the third layer down under hair and grease.
You know what's crazy? So are intersex people!
No, because people are wired to like boobs.
Not just people, mammals in general
If you don't like boobs, you might starve to death as a baby. So loving boobs is probably one of the most selected for traits for any mammal.
I lived in Haiti for three years. Breasts weren't considered private. After 2 months, I didn't even notice them. Interestingly, once I came back to Canada, they reverted back to being sexualized.
Interesting !
Reminds me of the Islamic concept of the Aura, which basically denotes body parts that should be covered in public. There's the so-called greater and the so-called lesser Aura. The greater Aura (= the body parts for which you commit a greater sin should you uncover yours in public or look at someone else's), goes from the navel to the knees. Thus, for a Muslim woman, it is less of a sin to go topless (as long as her pants cover all the way up to the navel) as it is to run around in a miniskirt or shorts.
Interesting. It would sure attract the tourists.
Related: I wonder if "Daddy" is sexualized in places like say Singapore or Hong Kong...
I see "Daddy" used in TVB Shows... 👀
@NorthWestWind@lemmy.world So I hereby summon thee, our resident Hong Konger; is there like a sexualization of "Daddy" like there is in western countries?
Or do y'all just use the Cantonese word?
Daddy is used normally here. I can't think of a Cantonese equivalent off my head right now, but we have plenty of phrases describing different relationships types.
For example, 食軟飯 (eat soft rice) means a man being financially dependent on a woman.
And seeing her breast was like seeing an MRI.
