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    [–] noxar_ad@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 hour ago

    I've settled for lxqt + niri because I was too lazy to rice my desktop and lxqt looked good enough, I don't know what features I'm missing but until I need them I'm doing good.

    [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 17 points 7 hours ago

    KDE is a LOT lighter than it used to be. The migration to plasma was ugly but they definitely got their shit together. Resource wise, it’s fine. You can run it in a pi.

    GNOME is unapologetic resource wise. It’s like living with an asshole roommate that doesn’t understand why everyone hates him. It’s not getting better. KDE is.

    [–] olafurp@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    I'm really interested in a tiling VM such as hyperland but I really like all the features of KDE. The latest release is absolutely massive and comes with "Save current theme"

    [–] Twongo@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

    hyprland looks good for screenshots but as soon as you update your system you'll see that beautiful error box on top of your screen

    [–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    krohnkite + kde rounded corners :3

    [–] olafurp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

    Looks good, I'm going to try it out. I've almost good a complete zero mouse setup on my computer and i only use it for websites. I go as far as to use the terminal to connect to BT headphones and to play/pause music.

    [–] 1984@lemmy.today 2 points 4 hours ago

    If you use cosmic desktop, you can switch the entire desktop from floating to tiling and it works very smoothly

    I started out using tiling but actually like floating more now. Still, cool to have such easy switches.

    You can use a dedicated tiling window manager but cosmic is a lot more "batteries included" and just works.

    [–] Serroda@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

    You can also have auto tiling in KDE https://codeberg.org/Serroda/fluid-tile

    [–] sleepmode@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

    I used KDE early on... around SuSE 7.3. It was a trash fire for a long time. Wildly unstable, would take so long to compile it was basically a meme in the community before memes existed in mainstream, and it was like every single random idea was implemented. Zero cohesiveness. Thumbed their noses at any kind of UI/UX standards. Gnome, of all things was the more solid option if you wanted a "desktop." Weird to think about considering how that ended up. It has come a longgggggggggg way. Still not for me but after messing with it recently I was pleasantly surprised.

    [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 27 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

    IDK what y'all are on about. KDE + Khronkite uses very little RAM. There are a few background things you can disable if you don’t need them to make it even leaner.

    It also just works, with so many integrations, all maintained for you.

    My brief foray into discrete WMs like Sway was nostop “oh, it doesn’t have a WiFi manager? Oh, no sharing? Oh, no…” and I ended up having to install a bunch of stuff manually, manually configure it all, tie them together with some scripts and services that break with updates, and find out I did a no-so-great job because I haven’t spent literally thousands of man hours in integration and ended up using a lot of extra disk space and RAM anyway!

    Breathes.

    So yeah. Big DEs are nice. And lean, mostly.

    [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 hours ago

    The one thing I have to make leaner on every clean Plasma install is KSearch or what it's called. searching for programs is WAY slow with all the search functionality enabled

    [–] Limerance@piefed.social 5 points 13 hours ago

    Yes, for window managers, it’s worth finding a good strongly opinionated distro or script to start with, so you don’t have to hunt down and configure a dozen tools.

    ML4W, Dank Linux, Zirconium, Omarchy come to mind

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    [–] shirro@aussie.zone 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

    Never liked the look of KDE. It is nothing to do with the tech or features. I think qt is a very solid foundation and my current desktop is built on Qt/QML. KDE just feels Windows-ish somehow and that's probably part of what makes it great for a lot of people. That is a huge win for Linux adoption. Just not for me.

    I always liked Gnome. It was simple and felt fresh even though I hate gtk/gobject etc. And I still keep Gnome as a backup but it think development is being held back by being built on layers of shit.

    After a long time going back and forth I think I am all in on Niri now. Regular tilers never worked for me but somehow scrollers do. It is weird how much of a difference it makes for me. It is possible to build a complete desktop now with Quickshell and a bit of a backend for some services which makes the Gnome desktop and Plasma look crazy over engineered and I don't know why the Cosmic people even bothered. I don't see how Gnome can keep up as its is such a horrible system to program. DankMaterialShell is reasonably usable for starters but I might even start working on something. It looks like fun.

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    All main desktop environment users triggered in 3...2...1...

    But seriously, as a KDE Plasma user, I have to note it's extremely customizable. It doesn't have to look or behave like Windows at all, it's just a default.

    An entirely different look? Sure! All sorts of completely customizable shortcuts? Yep! Tiling? If you so wish!

    The thing that made Plasma my forever choice is that whatever I want to make it, it delivers. It has settings for everything.

    Here are just two examples of the non-standard KDE looks by the way:

    1000108151

    1000108150

    [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago

    Is the left panel in the first screenshot just a bunch of System Monitor widgets stuck together? Or is it a different widget that displays all this information in this way?

    [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

    The windows approach isn’t for everyone but there’s a pretty solid consensus that nobody does it better than KDE. (I mean the Cinnamon people have an opinion but it’s doesn’t matter because reasons)

    The reasons projects like this work at all is the pressures are different form the Apple and windows shit. Microsoft and Apple release one UI for their full computers and it has to work for as many people as possible. That sounds great until you realize you are locked in a room with a bunch of boomers wondering why this HOA only has installed 7 speed bumps on this street.

    [–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 hours ago

    I changed to tiling about a decade ago. The pain of switching now would never be worth it. I don't think I've tweaked a config in several years. Shit just works. As always, to each their own.

    [–] Rollade@lemmy.ml 79 points 18 hours ago (10 children)

    Unused ram is wasted ram. Change my mind

    [–] janus2@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

    "i paid for the whole RAM imma use the whole RAM"

    –me in 2010 using console commands to turn off all the particle effects in Portal so that I could boost my fps to ~20 w/ minimum settings (the laptop did not have a graphics card lmao)

    [–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 61 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)

    This applies when RAM is used as temporary cache or something that can be instantly freed the moment it is needed otherwise. This doesn't really work for justifying higher RAM use by KDE, unless you would never need that RAM for anything else anyway.

    I use KDE because it is good, though. Also I don't think KDE even uses more RAM than other DEs that are designed to be lightweight. Last time I compared, it used the same or less memory as LXDE.

    [–] supermarkus@feddit.org 37 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

    Also I don’t think KDE even uses more RAM than other DEs that are designed to be lightweight. Last time I compared, it used the same or less memory as LXDE.

    Firefox without any website loaded uses more RAM than a full Plasma session.

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    [–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 16 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

    Also I don’t think KDE even uses more RAM than other DEs that are designed to be lightweight. Last time I compared, it used the same or less memory as LXDE.

    Yep. KDE is feature-rich, but it's also highly optimized these days, and the RAM usage is actually competitive with the best of them.

    You can get RAM usage lower on a very stripped down, barebones system, but if you want a full 'normal computer' desktop experience that has all the things you'd expect a computer to have, you'd be hard-pressed to find one that uses significantly less RAM than KDE. (Yes, there are some that get lower ... but not a lot lower. And unless you're running on some extremely limited hardware, are those extra 20MB of RAM really going to make a difference in your everyday life?)

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    [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 18 points 17 hours ago

    It's just really oversimplifying memory usage. OS designers had that same thought decades ago already, so they introduced disk caching. If data gets loaded from disk, then it won't be erased from memory as soon as it isn't needed anymore. It's only erased, if something else requests memory and this happens to be the piece of "free" memory that the kernel thinks is the most expendable.

    For example, this is what the situation on my system looks like:

    free -h
                   total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
    Mem:            25Gi       9,8Gi       6,0Gi       586Mi       9,3Gi        15Gi
    

    Out of my 32 GiB physical RAM, 25 GiB happens to be usable by my applications, of which:

    • 9.8 GiB is actually reserved (used),
    • 9.2 GiB is currently in use for disk caching and buffers (buff/cache), and
    • only 6.1 GiB is actually unused (free).

    If you run cat /proc/meminfo, you can get an even more fine-grained listing.

    I'm sure, I could get the number for actually unused memory even lower, if I had started more applications since booting my laptop. Or as the Wikipedia article I linked above puts it:

    Usually, all physical memory not directly allocated to applications is used by the operating system for the page[/disk] cache.

    So, if you launch a memory-heavy application, it will generally cause memory used for disk caching to be cleared, which will slow the rest of your system down somewhat.

    Having said all that, I am on KDE myself. I do not believe, it's worth optimizing for the speed of the system, if you're sacrificing features that would speed up your usage of it. Hell, it ultimately comes down to how happy you are with your computer, so if it makes you happy, then even gaudy eye-candy can be the right investment.
    I just do not like these "unused RAM is wasted RAM" calls, because it is absolutely possible to implement few features while using lots of memory, and that does slow your system down unnecessarily.

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    [–] comador@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] sunstoned@lemmus.org 3 points 5 hours ago

    I, too, hate aesthetics

    [–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 18 hours ago (14 children)

    I just prefer tiling windows managers idk

    [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 11 points 17 hours ago

    KDE Plasma can do that, too, via a KWinscript: https://codeberg.org/anametologin/Krohnkite 🙃

    On a more serious note, this is a genuine recommendation. I've been using Krohnkite and similar scripts for a few years now, and they're absolutely fine, especially since Plasma 6 introduced a native, manual tiling mechanism, which they just have to configure.
    Especially for newbies wanting to try out tiling window management, without having to figure out a minimalist environment like a bare window manager, this is a great entrypoint IMHO.

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    [–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 25 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

    It's astonishing how little RAM KDE needs for its features.

    [–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago

    my ram usage with no apps open is 12 to 15 gigs. ultranarine kde

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    [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

    XFCE has always seemed to cover most any "normal" desktop experience I've ever needed, still even beating Windows hands down (as if that's difficult, especially these days).

    Granted, I don't use KDE Connect or ... what ever else KDE has over XFCE. The styling options are fun, but I'm too old to care about style these days.

    I have NOT compared them to confirm any of the supposed lesser resource usage of XFCE, so if you're going to roast me, tell me why (preferrably with direct data so we can all know).

    [–] Limerance@piefed.social 3 points 13 hours ago

    XFCE is great, although a little stale and slow to evolve. I used it for many years. Still remember when Thunar finally got thumbnail previews.

    [–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 17 points 18 hours ago

    yeah, kde is da best... i tried to use some of the others but kde just works so much better

    [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

    KDE is premier for a modern system, but I have a handful of low-power devices where XFCE or LXQt are a lot more useful despite disliking their interfaces.

    XFCE is great for mid-range old devices, and LXQt is great for dogshit old devices.

    [–] supermarkus@feddit.org 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

    XFCE is great for mid-range old devices, and LXQt is great for dogshit old devices.

    What's this device in your scale from old doghit to old mid-range?

    Runs a full Plasma session just fine. The problem isn't the desktop, it's the web browsers, especially Firefox. Falkon runs OK.

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    [–] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 5 points 15 hours ago
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