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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 162 points 2 months ago (15 children)

I love her. She's the queen of TMI during Q&A's. Like when she casually dropped that before she met her now husband, she "slept" with just about every single guest star. What a legend.

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 68 points 2 months ago (6 children)

"Not just the men, but the women and..."

[–] socsa@piefed.social 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 months ago

Wesley: "Did he just tell me to shut up?"

Dr. Crusher: "Shut up Wesley."

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[–] Serialchemist@ttrpg.network 121 points 2 months ago (4 children)

“Gene Roddenberry’s vision” was usually an upskirt shot.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which wasn't helped by Berman.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh the short skirts were 100% Gene. Rick is the one with the catsuit fetish. He was the one who decided to shrink wrap Jeri Ryan.

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[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 119 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Captain Jellico's "put on a real uniform" command was written in at Marina's request.

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 61 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Smart move. Even by 1989's standards and fashions, some of the costumes they put her in were hideous.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm quite fond of the long dress she got for one season. I'm sure it was hell as a costume, but I thought it looked tasteful. I also have the idea that the psychological/psychiatric lead on the ship ought to look somewhat "different" when she's working. Her uniform should be more casual, because her role is one where you want people to be able to get away from the structure, and to trust her confidentiality. The catsuits were dumb, and the Farpoint / S1 miniskirt was scandalous. but I did like the full-length dress.

[–] wirehead@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Pretty much every "show off the attractive female main character" outfit that they've invented for Trek has not worked for me. Troi's outfits, Seven's outfits, T'pol's outfits... I think that actually the only exception is the Farpoint miniskirt and even then it just looks attractive but I don't like what it meant for Troi's brains so all things being equal I actually like her the most in the standard uniform jumpsuit which is, quite frankly, already designed to make people look good.

Now that we're decades away from the show and everybody involved has been interviewed a bunch of times, what I actually wish we could have seen was Troi as the diplomatic counselor instead of the vague psychological lead / poorly utilized character that we got. Because if she was the ship's therapist the long dress would work because it is tasteful and different yet still professional, but then we'd not be seeing her on the bridge the way we did.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've posted this before.

My head canon is that when a new civilization joins the Federation, they get to pick the new Starfleet uniforms. The Betazeds gave us the TOS miniskirts.

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[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You're a better man (I assume) than me. My young self very much appreciated Sevens outfit back in the day. Although I have to admit, the episode where she travels back in time to the Voyager in dry dock and wears the science uniform plus a ponytail was also a great look for her.

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[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago (5 children)

It may be an unpopular opinion, but I think she looked way cooler in uniform.


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[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 101 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"Dress was so short that you could see what I had for breakfast" is such an amazing turn of words

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Carrie Fisher said of the slave Leia bikini that, because it was rigid, while she was laying against Jabba it rode forward and anyone standing behind her could see "all the way to China." and she opined that's why the actor playing Boba Fett preferred standing back there.

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 79 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Oh, she ate pussy for breakfast?

[–] Tower@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 months ago

Ahhhh, ok. Now it clicked.

[–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 58 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My teenage self had no complaints about Troi's uniforms.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Tf are you still listening to that hormonal idiot, it's been over 30 years

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even back then I thought she looked like she was freezing.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I mean yeah... It's cold in space.

[–] Klear@quokk.au 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There's no kind of atmosphere 🎶

[–] wizzer@eviltoast.org 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We’re all alone, more or less

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Let me fly, far away from here,

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[–] THP_iz_da_law@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

In fact it’s cold as h*ll

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 months ago (5 children)
[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I've seen so many meme edits of this scene that I was waiting for the reveal, lol.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago
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[–] FlatFootFox@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I still love how Jellico’s changes were all just stealth excuses for cast requests.

That being said, a four shift rotation is absurd.

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[–] ceiphas@piefed.social 32 points 2 months ago (7 children)

In the first season that dress was also worn by men... How woke...

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

But crucially, not by anyone in the main male cast. They threw a few skants on to a couple of male extras to forestall accusations of sexism. A figurative (and and near literal) figleaf.

Frankly, a unisex, utilitarian kilt would probably have worked a lot better for gals and guys, but someone got greedy for “underbutt” and ended up with an outfit so disliked that it was quickly phased out.

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 13 points 2 months ago

We just needed more men in the knee-high boots

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The very last scene in Encounter at Farpoint, Yar is also wearing the minidress uniform, AFAIK it's the only scene with her in it. The camera zooms in from about where it is above into a close-up of Picard, and Denise Crosby very pointedly steps out of shot partway through.

I have to wonder if that scene wasn't the first shot actually filmed, if they weren't planning on just, having all the women in crotch-length miniskirts until they had a couple shots in the can.

[–] albbi@piefed.ca 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The very first scene also has a man in the minidress uniform, I guess to show equality.

edit: Oh, this was mentioned a lot further down.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I love Marina but her character was so poorly written that Guinom (Goldberg's character) did Troi's job as counselor better than Troi ever could. Poor woman's entire role in the show was to be tortured and objectified while her character primary love interest shagged his way across the galaxy, Crusher probably got an award for her work during all his alien STDs.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 14 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Does Twitter or whatever have a La Forge emoji or something?

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

It wasn't just the dress, it was those knee-high boots that made critics call her an intergalactic cheerleader.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Could be worse.

[–] regedit@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Didn't they revamp the uniforms after season one because they were horribly uncomfortable?

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[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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