WE NEED NEPTUNIAN ICE STAT
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Solving the problem once and for all.
But, wouldn't...
"ONCE AND FOR ALL!"
The average person will only realize that something is really changing when they have to drastically change their consumption habits, and it will be too late to something about it
If coffee goes, I'm done with this shithole existence.
We don't get coffee, and Nazis are back!? Fuck this world...
Seriously. I had better die before this happens.
Good luck with that! Hopefully cancer. Cancer isn't so bad, right?
Depends on the cancer
But, mostly, yes
It just means instead of Arabica type beans, we will have to choke down robusta, the basis of cheap industrial coffee.
Man, I'll honestly just stick to tea if it comes to that. The only good robusta drink I've ever had was some south Indian filter coffee (also kalled filter kaapi). It's traditionally a mix of robusta and chicory, but you can make it with Arabica if you want. But other than that, I vastly prefer a cup of first flush Darjeeling tea.
Aparently you didn't see the chart showing Vietnam's robusta threat in this.
These bastards are going to take coffee from us.
Wouldn't this also mean that parts of the world what were previously too cold to grow the beans are now appropriate?
Not the right type of soil is my understanding.
nope we need to get ice from neptune to fix this now it's gone too far
The problem is that those areas are in the subtropical dry zone, where water constraints mean we won't see sustainable large-scale agriculture.
Let them drink tea.
Very possibly the only alternative.
Brazil's Embrapa is trying to breed Robusta to have a taste profile more closely matching Arabica, whilst also resisting the heat better. Difficult challenge given Robusta tastes like burnt rubber.
the roaster i like has a bean from honduras and that's what i'm betting on
This is gonna be like the Gros Michel banana thing again isn't it - where decades from now almost none of the world's coffee will taste as good as it used to, and nobody quite knows why.
I doubt because in that case we do have seeds of the plant and it can be put in a greenhouse, generally the situation is way different, i'il explain myself better:
Gran michele is now extinct because of how it was cultivated; In practice, to avoid having seeds in the fruit, production was carried out using cuttings, so practically all Gran Michele plants were clones of a group of other Gran Michele plants, meaning that genetic mutations never developed. Since none of them had developed a mutation capable of resisting a fungus (the name of which I cannot remember), they ALL died and we simply didn't had seeds
You can still buy the Gros Michel banana nowadays. It's not extinct, but is a rare and expensive speciality, rather than the common type of banana we see on the shelves like it used to be.
$37 USD per banana, on this particular site
If climate change makes growing Arabica coffee commercially non-viable at scale and all the growers move to hardier alternatives, then Arabica will still exist - absolutely - but instead of being the coffee you can drink every day it will also become a rare and expensive speciality, just like the banana.
Wow that's gone up me and a few coworkers ordered a box a couple of years ago and it was like $9 per banana.
They were good, I see the appeal of the variety, but they were not $9 banana good. Let alone $37 banana good.
Damn, didn't know they still existed, sadly they cost a lot :/

Quote did not age well.
Very likely, yes
Jfc everything is becoming a luxury...
I feel like the scene in v for vendetta when she eats toast with real butter and was shocked. That’s basically our future.
Phillip k dick envisioned a world were everything was fake and only the very wealthy could afford real.
Of course, to the oligarchs this is the end game. I equate them to the top tier raiding gears in WoW back in the day. They didn't want people getting purples so easily because it was prestige only they had it. They argued and bickered vehemently to prevent the average prole from being able to get it. Some people need to feel superior to others because they're often bankrupt of personality.
Prop hip hop did a really good expose on this on the podcast "it could happen here"
Wouldn't it just move more north or am I thinking too simplistic?
It takes years and years to establish a reliable farm. Climate change is happening faster and more unpredictably.
Also, it's not just temperature/latitude that plants rely on, it's soil, elevation, humidity, and sunlight. Those are really hard to change.
It's a bit too simplistic; coffee doesn't tolerate the overnight lows that you get outside the tropics and only grows between 25°N to 30°S. You could in theory grow it indoors with artificial lighting like marijuana, but that's really expensive.
Time to switch back to cocaine beverages such as original Coca-Cola
