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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

obligatory quote from This Soviet World by Anna Louise Strong

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for sharing comrade

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago
[–] ZarathustrasApe@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago

Lmao perfect

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Also to the liberals pearl clutching about "but we need democracy!" not realizing that's what that quote means.

The proletariat is, pretty much by definition, the VAST majority of the people in a society, by far the largest group. The commoners like you and me, working in order to make a living.

Dictatorship can mean what you think it means in that context. Ruling a country by the will of some dictator.

If the proletariat is the dictator, it means ruling a country by the will of the vast majority of the people. That's what democracy is. We can further discuss implementations of it and how well they work (hint: Western democracy works very poorly and is very undemocratic in practice, as you've definitely experienced), but the general concept described by "dictatorship of the proletariat" is democracy.

[–] AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can’t tell if this is meant as a jab at Anarchists or Communists.

The Anarchist doesn’t want there to be a centralized hierarchy since it gives people absolute power over their fellow men, so they’re asking like “what part of DICTATORSHIP do you not understand?”

The Communist is asking “what part of dictatorship of the PROLETARIAT do you not understand?” Because they think the society Anarchists want is a form of a dictatorship-of-the-proletariat.

[–] fermionsnotbosons@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

That's what makes it a fun meme!

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The end goal, where you dissolve the state, and thus the dictatorship.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The state is a result of class struggle, so to end states once and for all you need to achieve classless society, eliminating the basis of the state. That means collectivizing all production and distribution globally, into one system. Once this is done, there are no classes in contention, and as such the oppressive elements of society used to keep the proletariat on top will gradually disappear and "wither," being reduced in function and scope until only what's necessary remains, like administration.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It sounds like anarchist and communists should be allies.

[–] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 day ago

Only due to collective interests and a shallow understanding of each. When you really get down to it, Marxism and anarchism are opposites.

  • Historical materialism vs rejection of this (idealism)

  • Society is built upon what came before vs society is built anew

  • Centralization vs decentralization

  • Organization at a large scale (collective ownership of the means of production organized across the whole economy) vs organization at a small scale (isolated, individual, and direct ownership of the means of production with collective collaboration)

Sure, both agree that they want a stateless society, but communists and anarchists don't even agree on what the state is, meaning that while they can be strategic allies, their ultimate goals and approaches are completely different and opposed.

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

For the most part, yes there are even anarcho-communists. But at the same there is a big difference in the non-authoritarian view of the anarchists and some communists.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

From what I have read, it seems communism is the journey and anarchism is basically the destination with a few institutions intact. I'd rather take that road and whatevwr fights that may bring than what I currently see as our future.

Edit: because I don't believe the public on average, especially in the west, is ready for any kind of anarchism. They couldn't handle it. It would be ruined by the same forces currently destroying the world order. We need to join with the communists to defeat it. Whatever consequences come of that are better tha nation state fiefdoms run by billionaire psycopaths and sycophants.

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago
[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

AKA communism?

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If we agreed the market can't self regulate, why would the state be able to?

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The market cant self regulate because it doesnt represent the interests of the prolotariat. The state in a socialist society by definition is govened by the people.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not sure I understand the point, states and markets are entirely different things, especially a state run by the working class whose goal is to collectivize all production and distribution, erasing the basis of class struggle and therefore the oppressive elements of government that make up the state.

[–] finickydesert_1@social.vivaldi.net 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oh god, a repeat of the later half of the Spanish Civil War.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 19 hours ago

What a cursed set of flags

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That makes no sense. Living conditions while losing a civil war are hardly indicative of what planned economies are capable of.

I was referring to the communists and anarchists working together at first then breaking apart