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The constitution is supposed to guarantee these things. That a court was required to order it? Fuck absolutely everything about this.
So you see: Don't believe in the system
to legalize you or give you your freedom
You want rights? Ask ’em—they’ll read ’em
But every flower got a right to be bloomin’
Stay human
— Michael Franti & Spearhead (2001)
Yes, but actually no.
The bill of rights, i.e. first set of ammendments, are supposed to guarantee it. The framing of the original document did not include anything about our rights. Like - nothing at all what so fucking ever. Which kinda explains why those rights have been trampled all over by our own government so many times - they were an afterthought to market the main document to the masses.
Pieces of paper can't actually do things
Human decency, but only under court order, and only if ICE chooses to comply.
Is breathable air also necessitated? Is there a minimum or maximum atmospheric pressure allowed in detention areas? Just how specific do the laws and orders need to be to prevent malicious compliance bullshit?
"You never said the blankets couldn't be made of steel wool and soaked in lemon juice."
"Temperature-appropriate clothing, sure - but you didn't specify appropriate for the local climate and not somewhere thousands of miles away."
"The medication supply was adequate, it sufficed for the rest of their life!"
There ain't no rule that says a concentration camp can't be made entirely of asbestos coated lead!
All this talk of lead and asbestos has put this song in my head...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsF5nmwAp3s&list=RDjsF5nmwAp3s&start_radio=1
When "bullet time" was blowing up after the Matrix was released I was expecting to see some references to the music video I saw on MTV that preceded it; but I don't think I ever did. In 2014 (based on file timestamps) I randomly remembered the video and finally tracked it down: Meat Beat Manifesto - Helter Skelter.
Ah, that's a way cooler reference in the bullet time sequence; I never saw that video before, or at least not before The Matrix. When The Matrix came out, I think my only point of reference was The Gap commercials, LOL.
So, they are being made to follow the law, right?
It's a court order. They treat those as optional because the courts aren't willing to impose any meaningful penalty for noncompliance.
And? You think ice will care about judge orders?
You judge a society by how it treats its prisoners.
So after ICE completely ignore the law (as is their tradition), what punishments are going to be visited upon the relevant ICEholes? A strongly-worded letter? Slap on the wrist with a wet lettuce leaf? Riot police storming the facility and beating the rogue agency staff into submission before arresting them?
(That last one was, of course, nothing more than a little fantabulism).
I'm sure they'll get right on that, given how law-abiding they are.