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I want to love KDE, and really, I do, but I just can’t replace my normal desktop. Gnome makes sense to me. I disagree with a lot of their “simplification” ideology, but I can’t say they do a bad job at it.
I’m happy you’re enjoying KDE. Enjoy it even more for me. :)
ha! i'm the exact opposite! it's great that Linux provides us options.
True! Everyone gets to use what they like. :) It’s one of the many reasons I switched from winblows.
Have you tried plasma 6?
Yeah, I have. It’s a huge improvement over 5. I use it on my virtual machines, since flinging the mouse into the corner isn’t really an option there, I just can’t get used to it on my main machine.
Plasma has mouse corner stuff, I always turn it off because I will forget that it's on and accidentally trigger something, but it's there and ready to bind to your actions!
Yeah, I meant that I don’t use Gnome on my virtual PCs, because it’s not as easy without the mouse corner stuff. KDE is easy even without the mouse corner stuff.
Oh, I see lol. Early morning misread, sorry
I misread the same way and I've been awake for about 120 seconds
Plasma uses Wayland, doesn't it?
Existing versions support both X11 and Wayland. New versions will only support Wayland.
But X support is through Wayland, at just that was my impression. I mean it's not using X11 directly, or is it?
It is, up untill Plasma 6.8 (estimated release early 2027) Plasma can do both direct to X11, or direct wayland with xwayland support for legacy apps.
oh shit, it does hahah. I guess it's not a wayland issue then. :s
The issue is that full screen games wouldn't hold onto the mouse? Are these games running through proton (windows games being launched through steam)? If so, I know there's an option in protontricks to tweak this behavior per game. "Automatically capture the mouse in full screen windows" in winecfg.
Alternatively, you can try tweaking your steam launch params to use gamescope. Ex.
gamescope -W 1920 -H 1080 -r 60 -- %command%
Where the params denote the resolution and refresh rate of the window. You may need to install gamescope from your package manager.
When using gamescope, there's also --force-grab-cursor: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Gamescope#Cursor_doesn't_behave_properly
It (Wayland) is the default session, but supports both for now. OP mentioned they chose the X11 session because games lose mouse lock, which is why GNOME wasn't an option since it doesnt support X11.
It supports both, but X is going through Wayland, not a direct support. At least that's how I understand it.
no. i believe you're talking about how existing x11 programs can run under wayland through xwayland. kde plasma as of now can still operate as an X11 DE.
To clarify: KDE Plasma has both an X11 and Wayland session, on the Wayland session X11 apps run using the provided Xwayland server.
The difference is that there are some restrictions for X11 apps, like on many distros X11 apps can't detect all keypresses when not focused or steal mouse focus.
Ah, ok, makes sense.
This is why I think people should stop talking about Ubuntu so much and name drop Kubuntu more, it's the new top dog in the family
Or just dump Ubuntu entirely and use Debian.
yea, but doesn't Kubuntu get updated kernels faster than Debian? non-LTS, every 6 months instead of every 2 years
IDK what is up with Kubuntu, but it always has show-stopping bugs when I use it. I think it's the reason everyone thinks Plasma is buggy. Any other distro seems to work fine with Plasma.
Interesting, I wonder if I'm avoiding these by using the backports lol
Possibly. I can't say I've ever tried to add Plasma to vanilla Ubuntu, other than trying out Kubuntu every once in a while when I try to put a new linux user on something, I've been off Ubuntu for well over a decade.
Wait until you discover KWin scripts, especially Krohnkite and Karousel.
I love Krohnkite, so based on this comment alone I shall now look into Karousel!
I tried kubuntu on my work laptop. Pretty neat so far. But I switched to Niri and for a laptop at least I prefer it to floating style WM.
I switched from gnome to niri and I really like the new workflow, however I'm having an issue in which some games won't go full screen or won't resize after changing the resolution. Sometimes rebooting my computer fixes the issue tho.
games would lose mouse lock
Did gamescope not do the trick for you? Having used both Gnome and KDE on Wayland anytime I've encountered that issue the solution was simply to use gamescope.
I only tried to use gamescope as a launch option, but that made it so at least one of the games wouldn't launch. I've not tried with others though or installing it through apt. So far switching to kde has done the trick, so not going to try fixing a problem that isn't there anymore (so far).
Install Wallhaven plugin, then you can have two different wallpapers that are changed each ten minutes.
But once you'll br affected by a bug you may not like it as much. I reported a bug many months ago about being unable to download or visualize image from Nextcloud, and I'm yet to see any reply on my report.
I haven't tried gaming on niri. But I think they talked about it on the dual boot diaries.
I'm using Niri and gaming happily with it on Steam and Heroic. 👌 10/10 would recommend. AMA.
Iam using KDE and Wayland and have no issues with games. Which of your games are related to m issues with wayland.?
All of them lol.
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What kind of graphics card do you have? This smells like an Nvidia issue. I haven't had any Wayland issues since I switched to AMD
I am using Fedora with Gnome on Wayland with an AMD gpu and have encountered the same issue. Someone found issues that should be fixed in the mutter 49.3 version, should probably be in Gnome 49.4 - Reddit comment
Huh, alright. That's annoying. People were downvoting me for some reason but I was literally just curious, and you've given the exact kind of answer I was hoping for to satisfy that curiosity. Thank you.