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[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 35 minutes ago* (last edited 27 minutes ago) (1 children)

Source? Like, I would love for this to be true. But how do we know it's true? Surely if it's so obvious it should be easy to provide one specific piece of evidence, rather than just gesturing broadly at the world and saying "it should be obvious".

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 16 seconds ago

Epstein had a conversation with m00t, and the same day, 4chan put out /pol, the board that infected the rest of the site with the right-wing sentiment it's currently known for, in addition to being ground zero for basically all conservative neo-nazi culture today.

This among many other things.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Now replace "anti-woke culture war" with "AI" and it still works

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I'm on the web since 90s and I saw this unroll first hand. The social media gave people immense power to organize and validate each other and it took a while for the billionaires to catch up but once they learned of this power they had no choice but to oppose it. They succeeded and now we generally treat social media as net negative and fight "the woke" for them using our own resources.

It's not a unique, new problem. This what happens with every almost every new technology which starts as legit useful tool that gets captured by bad actors. This is why decentralization and societal hedging is important - we must move quickly, broadly and embrace new tech before the big battleship of doom turns towards us. Guerilla warfare on the bleeding edge is the best path forward!

Thanks for coming to my ted talk 🙏

Edit: actually a very relevant article just dropped on the verge that illustrates this through Epstein emails and how they were coordinating against #metoo movement https://www.theverge.com/tech/874721/epstein-thiel-musk-trump-metoo

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Not being a pedo is so woke

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Fucking kids to own the libs

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 8 hours ago

Said the kids

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

ochestated by RUSSIA mostly, working with the billionaires, almost any comment you see online has been suspected of being a russian bot at some point.

[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

We lost the Cold War, it didn't end when the USSR collapsed. The task was to destroy the other's government without incurring nukes and Russia won overwhelmingly.

Though after the Ukraine war seems like China's the only global winner in all this.

[–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 3 points 3 hours ago

The kremlin definitely pushed it because they benefited from it.

But it’s not that simple.

This is more a convergence of the interests of a lot of powerful actors.

That means yes the Kremlin, but to a probably more significant extent, the billionaires, the corporations and much more.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Sounds like something a Russian bot would say.

I'M ON TO YOU, IVAN!

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand. This is just an image of a tweet.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 hours ago

It appears to be from either Bluesky or Mastodon. Both twitter replacements. It also seems as though that’s what this comm is. A place for pictures of ‘tweets’

[–] grue@lemmy.world 18 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

And Qanon/Pizzagate, because -- say it with me, now -- it's always projection.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Also elevatorgate, watch the videos of Rebecca Watson!

Well, they were right to be outraged. We can only hope that some of them have the moral integrity to maintain some sense of (I cant find the right word) fortitude following the revelation that the perpetrators are "their people" and not a bunch of rich and powerful liberals.

[–] arockinyourshoe@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Not that I doubt it, I don't, but uhhh...

Source? Please?

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

just read the epstein files for yourself

i use https://epsteinfta.com/

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 31 minutes ago

Since the evidence for the claim is, according to you, omnipresent in the documents, it should be easy for you to point to just one single specific document that supports your claim. Can you please provide just one?

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Are you unclear on the typical meaning of "just" in this context?

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 15 points 13 hours ago

One does not "just" read a three million page document.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 23 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

that's like saying my source is in a book in the library. not really useful

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Well when the whole book is about that one thing…

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The one that was linked. I know it’s not a book. I was using your own analogy.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 points 47 minutes ago

are you aware what analogies are?

you didn't link a book, but the whole library.

[–] Orygin@sh.itjust.works 13 points 18 hours ago

There's tons of documents, and it's not the first time I've seen this claim, so I wonder if there are any specific documents that corroborates the claims

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Website's down, also it would be nice to know about specific documents that back up this type of claim and how

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

i was wondering if the people who weren't aware of this were holed up in facebook or reddit, but i guess diet-reddit makes sense too.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 30 minutes ago

Can you provide a single specific document that even suggests evidence of the OP's claim? If not, then what is your "awareness" based on? A Mastodon post?

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, who is surprised by this? Genuinely. Do you know anyone who is surprised by billionaires billionairing? Because I don’t.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 38 minutes ago)

Many Americans not only get their news just from American sources, they also limit to just their preferred propaganda source like a major network (fox, abc, CNN, etc) or nontraditional source (newsmax, Breitbart, Joe Rogan podcasts, Facebook, etc). It's the same as someone in Russia only listening to RT or a Brit only considering BBC, etc. If you only listen to one or two agreeing sources it's very difficult to tell what is being left out or distorted on purpose without perspective & understanding the biases of the sources they consume.

https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/2025/06/10/the-political-gap-in-americans-news-sources/

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/09/25/1-in-5-americans-now-regularly-get-news-on-tiktok-up-sharply-from-2020/

It's just conjecture not supported by the article, but I suspect most Americans would say their 1-2 news sources are unbiased or very little bias as opposed to understanding how they are actually biased.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

So I read some of the stuff that has been popping up. He says some damning things but most of it just comes off as an idiot guessing and mouthing off to impress people.

I don't doubt there's some shady things going on, I just don't think this guy was actually in the know. He seems like more of a henchman mostly in the dark instead of the mastermind that had a tell all over email.