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ICE Goons’ Gunpoint Snatch-and-Grab of U.S. Citizen Thwarted (www.thedailybeast.com)

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 116 points 2 months ago (1 children)

After the woman was detained, her husband said he called his attorney. Shortly after, he received a call from St. Peter Chief of Police Matt Grochow, whom he has known for years.

"I was talking to him, kind of venting some of my frustrations,” the husband told MPR, before encouraging the chief to make sure local officers were more visible during ICE operations. “If [local police] were present and they could see you, I promise you their behavior more than likely, or hopefully, would, you know, be appropriate and law-abiding,” he said.

After the officers put her in their car and drove toward the Twin Cities, they themselves received a call, the woman said, and quickly turned back.

“ICE returned the female to our police department, I saw her, and I gave her a ride home,” Grochow wrote in a statement to MPR about the incident.

Two lessons from this:

Cops do have influence over ICE and what they do.
Cops won't use that influence unless it's a personal friend that also has lawyers on retainer.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm wondering if it's because ICE can't detain citizens. And I don't mean they can't legally detain citizens. I mean they don't have places to do it. Do they have jails? If they only operate detention facilities for immigrants they would have to take detained citizens to a police station and in this case the police probably said they will not arrest her. And yes, they will often lie that someone is not a citizen but does anyone know of a case where they put a white citizen into a immigrant detention facility? Or do they take those people to jails?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They just chuck everyone in their concentration camps.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I saw a report yesterday that they are buying warehouses in many major metro areas

[–] Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexus 4 points 2 months ago

They can put anyone in the "detention centers" if they have suspicion that the person is illegally in the country.
Of course the person can show passport or other sort of ID, but the SA goons can just decide they never saw it. Then that person is an unidentified alien in a "detention center" and will stay there until they disappear.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, because her husband was literally buddies with the police chief.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 months ago

I get what you are saying, but I'll take any W we can get. If a privileged older white lady (OWL) is what it takes to give ICE a very public black eye and get the cops more involved in hindering these nazi goons, then I'm onboard.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think their attorney knew him.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

You should try reading the article.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 39 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It was not thwarted. It was successful, and the perpetrators experience no consequences.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If it instills fear then mission accomplished.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago

The goal of fear is fear. The goal of power is power.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

its useful propaganda for the MSMs and propaganda media. fox, newsmax, oan and grifters.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Successfully thwarted

[–] morgan_423@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

In their statement, they vilified the victim by claiming she was fleeing law enforcement.

Hmmm... I wonder why she did that? Running for her life, perhaps?

[–] Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexus 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In the video you can see that this didn't happen in reality.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago

Yea they fly up infront of her and cut her off. They are so poorly trained. Only saving grace is the fact all these fascists are even more incompetent this time around.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

There was no law enforcement present, the victim would happily flee to law enforcement...

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Police CAN do Something against ICE?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

"I'm not getting into the legality of everything"

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

So free. So brave.

[–] vimmiewimmie@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Something seems to be missing here...

After the officers put her in their car and drove toward the Twin Cities, they themselves received a call, the woman said, and quickly turned back.

How did the call to the police chief result in these people receiving a call...? This is seemingly stated as a determining factor in them turning around and taking her to the police station. But.. how did this happen like that without some type of cooperation between local police and the feds?

Knowing what individuals were working in the area, where they were, what type of vehicles they were using (another article stated the police chief, on the call with the husband, described the vehicle the woman was taken away in to confirm it with the husband), and how this all resulted in a supposed phone call/the woman being taken to the police and turned over to them.

A personal relationship with the police chief is one thing, but the rest I can't make out at this point.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

After the woman was detained, her husband said he called his attorney. Shortly after, he received a call from St. Peter Chief of Police Matt Grochow, whom he has known for years.

Here's your answer: She was connected to someone important, the local police chief. If she'd been some random citizen, and didn't have a high-powered friend, she'd still be in an ICE Concentration Camp, and we wouldn't have heard a word about it.

[–] vimmiewimmie@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I get that for sure. It's totally unlikely this would have been the result without their prior relationship with the Police Chief.

What I'm confused about is how anyone in that chain of interactions knew how to get in touch with those specific ICE/CBP people; as it supposedly was a phone call directly to them which had them turn around and take her to the police station.

So, I'm hypothesizing either the local police had some amount of knowledge of what ICE/CBP people were in the area and contact info for them, or a beneficial enough relationship between the chief or the local LE that contacting someone higher up in ICE/CBP/DSHS resulted in such a quick turn around (or any at all, based on their refusal to cooperate with seemingly every request anywhere else).

Sorry, does that make more sense?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

I would imagine that every police chief has the local ICE commander's cell phone when they are in town, causing trouble.

[–] Gaja0@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

Insane video