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Poor Lonnie. May he cry himself to sleep on his MyPillow tonight.

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[–] pimpampoom@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And yet their stock is skyrocketing, something is not right

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

House of cards

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago

Not enough.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Tesla’s board:

hey, I know, let’s give the ketamine enthusiast who sieg heil’d a dementia-ridden psychopathic racist twice on national television a trillion dollars this year as a comp package.

[–] dxgsthrr@feddit.uk 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

$TSLA fanbois always claim that only Tesla can sell EVs at a profit / with a huge margin (something like $10k per vehicle). Would be interested to see what kind of margin per vehicle they are making now that the tax credits are removed and it appears that much of the profit came from energy storage.

[–] hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Those crazy margins lasted for like 2 quarters until it was revealed that one of the main ways they managed it was severely under allocating warranty. It was a neat trick, until vehicles actually started to come back with warranty claims and they realized they literally make the least reliable and most expensive to repair cars on the market. IIRC they were allocating like 1/3 of what Toyota does per-vehicle, which is absolutely insane given the kind of vehicles they make. Hence why they became insanely stingy with warranty claims, and you saw tons of in-warranty repairs being allocated to "goodwill" which is a distinctly different pool from warranty allocation.

The entire company is built on fraud and shell-games with SpaceX/Starlink/Boring Co. and Musk has straight up admitted as much. No one gives a shit and a judge literally ruled he's allowed to do it because line go up.

I can rant for hours about all the insanely sketchy stuff they've done solely for a one quarter boost, and plenty of other stuff where their cost-cutting directly resulted in loss of life.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

plenty of other stuff where their cost-cutting directly resulted in loss of life.

https://www.tesladeaths.com/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevebanker/2025/02/11/tesla-again-has-the-highest-accident-rate-of-any-auto-brand/

Now we know why DOGE got rid of the NTHSA.

[–] midas22@lemmy.wtf 5 points 1 day ago

I can rant for hours about all the insanely sketchy stuff they’ve done solely for a one quarter boost, and plenty of other stuff where their cost-cutting directly resulted in loss of life.

My favorite is how Tesla invested in Bitcoin in 2021 and started reported unrealized gains from its Bitcoin holdings in certain quarters when the price went up but then just omitted it for the next quarter when it was down. I believe that they have changed the laws regarding that now... if that matters.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

The big change is Chinese EVs coming into Canada. Tesla sales tanked after Heil Hitler but it's only a matter of time before they enter the US. Tesla only made money for years selling carbon credits.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 50 points 2 days ago (3 children)

And let me guess, stonk went up still?

It's not about the companies, it's a gamble stock, divorced from the performance of the company.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Yes, because while they had lower profits than previously, they still had higher profits than expected. This market behavior is in no way unique or limited to Tesla or "meme stocks". If a company increases profits, but less than expected, their stock usually drop despite increased profit. It's because value is tied to actual results vs. expected results on the short term.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because the stock market doesn't care about reality. It is just a bunch of rich guys trading money between each other, and they have enough to not need us.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 5 points 1 day ago

Top 10% of people own 90% of stocks 85% of all businesses, and half the real estate.

Yeah, it just became another form of currency to them to make number go up attached to their soul of course.

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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fact that it isnt completely under is unacceptable.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Stock price went from $430 to $450.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's been sliding all month.

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[–] JackDark@lemmy.world 98 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Investors largely expected the decline in sales in Tesla’s fourth quarter and full-year results for 2025, and the company beat Wall Street’s estimates for earnings and revenue, sending shares up in after-market trading Wednesday.

Remember, this is talking about profits, not revenue. They're still making profit. They did shit profits, but it was more than people expected them to make, so shares went up. Fuck Tesla.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 39 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Fucking stocks are like gambling. There's no rhyme or reason to them.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Especially a meme stock like tesla

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Investors had a general idea of what was going on at Tesla and thought their profits might be down to 20% of what they were last year, so prices went down before Tesla announced their results. Then the results came out. The results were terrible, but not as terrible as the rumours made it sound. So, share prices went back up a bit.

That makes perfect sense. Stocks are like gambling, where a lot of the bets make sense. This is like the odds on a sports game being very long before an injury report is released, and the odds getting slightly better after the injury report is released and it's not as bad as feared.

Where TSLA stock makes absolutely no sense is the P/E ratio. That's the price investors are paying for the shares compared to the earnings per share. An old, reliable company that probably won't grow very much but that has reliably made a steady profit year after year might have a P/E ratio of 5. Tech stocks that might grow a lot in the future might have a P/E ratio of 20 because the expectation is that they have a lot of room to grow, and that in 5 years their revenues and profits might have tripled.

For a typical car company that's well run, a P/E ratio of about 5-10 is normal. Volkswagen is at about 8, Toyota is at about 10, Ford is at about 12.

Tesla's P/E ratio is currently 283.38, and its market cap is $1.386 trillion. So, Tesla investors somehow think that Tesla is going to grow to become hundreds of times its current size and/or massively profitable.

So, the day-to-day movements of Tesla's stock price make sense in the abstract. Investors assuming bad news sell shares, when the news isn't as bad as feared, investors buy shares. Where they make no sense at all is that the investors are somehow deluding themselves into thinking this tiny car company is about to do something to juice its share price to the moon, like inventing nuclear fusion, or perfecting a time machine.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Welcome to the vibe based economy.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I honestly don't know how Musks companies work.

Tesla makes cars. Cars don't sell, so profit drops. Musk uses SpaceX to buy Teslas. Tesla's profit declines, Musk says it's an AI company, then buys AI from his other AI company, which he funded from Tesla stock. Musk buys Twitter, twitter goes down in value. Musk buys Twitter from himself using xAI, for higher than its market value, then boasts stock gains?

So now Tesla is going to buy AI from himself, and build robots that were just pantomimed guys in suits... and somehow... profit???

I don't know what the fuck is going on in this world. But I would absolutely love to see Tesla's stock drop and all of this made up debt-financing fall apart like the house of cards it is. However, Musk saying "we're making robots now" seems to have nicely papered over what should be a massive stock decline. After his last one "Tesla isn't a car company, it's an AI company" now it's "Tesla isn't an AI company, it's a factory company".

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's simple in its principal, really..

  • you have multiple companies
  • one company (A) have some supply for some product
  • on the other company (B), you create demand for that product (i.e. for its operation)
  • thus, under your control, you make company A and B enter a trade agreement
  • as someone who brokered that deal, you get rewarded (e.g. from brokerage fee, or commision)
  • sometimes, by having a massive increase in sales, the stock for company A would increase, thus you can sell a little bit of it, which you can later buy back after the stock price goes back down
  • profit

Some facts:

  • even though they're your companies, you are a separate entity from them, and they are each its own entity
  • the money comes from the investors as well as profit, remember that they are separate
  • no, you cannot just take all the companies' money, since even though they're yours, there are corporate structures and other people at stake preventing that

So you basically come up with some excuse for moving stuff around, then you come up with some excuse to siphon off some of that good stuff.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Fuck that shit. Companies being their own legal entity was a mistake.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He’s Elizabeth Holmes on a global scale. He grifts money from the governments

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[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Somehow stocks will go up.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

It's slid 8% over the last month. But at a 282 p/e, it could lose 90% and still be overvalued.

[–] yopyop@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

/c/mademesmile

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago (9 children)

they had profits in 2025? too many ok with buying nazi products

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 2 days ago

Way too many, fuck that Nazi and his shit company

[–] morto@piefed.social 21 points 2 days ago

A lot of people are too alienated from everything, or can't make relationships between brands and what's behind them, because everything not directly visible in front of us is too abstract for them, and there's those who are like "all brands are terrible, it won't make any difference anyway". Well, and there's the nazi sympathizers...

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[–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 53 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Everyone should be cutting Tesla, Google, Microsoft, apple, meta etc etc out of their lives as much as possible.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 35 points 2 days ago (8 children)
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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As well it should have. You can't sell many vehicles to people who still remember what nazi's were. Yet who really cares. In the aftermath of the nazi shit and dropped sales his board cronies paid him a trillion dollar bonus! CEO bonuses work both ways I guess, in this corrupt, fuck you, world.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

He did not get $1T. The milestones he has to reach to see that number have already failed.

Tesla Motors is a fail, now Tesla robots are going to make a profit even though they have never revealed a working prototype?

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Fucking outstanding, but we can do better. Down with swasticars.

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[–] Tim_Bisley@piefed.social 22 points 2 days ago (17 children)

Every 3rd car is a Tesla where I am. Many of which are newer models. At this point I feel like people are unable to vote with their wallet.

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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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