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I modified a image I saw going around last year on Global Switch Day https://old.reddit.com/r/solarpunk/comments/1ijmkc0/make_the_switch_away_from_meta/

Perhaps we could use it to make people aware of Reddit alternatives etc. If you can imporve upon the image please do so, and feel free to use it.

I just threw it together in KolourPaint in a few min.

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[–] Canyon201@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Why would you suggest piefed when it has so much biased hard-code in it's database?

It is clear that Rimu has forced his personal viewpoint and ideology into his code. Despite the claims there has been no evidence that this is the case for Lemmy.

He has coded in deliberatly misleading error messages when you try to upload images he doesn't like

  • You cannot cast a vote on PieFed if you’ve made 0 replies, 0 posts, AND your username is 8 characters long
  • When a reply is created, from anywhere, that only contains the word “this”, the comment is dropped
  • Every user (remote or local) has an “attitude” which is calculated as follows: (upvotes cast - downvotes cast) / (upvotes + downvotes). If your “attitude” is < 0.0 you can’t downvote. Again there is no mention of this anywhere but deep within his biased-code
  • Every account has a Social Credit Score. If your account has less than 100 Social Credit Score and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do. Your Social Credit Score is calculated as upvotes earned - downvotes earned aka Reddit Karma. If your reputation is at -10 you also cannot downvote, and you can’t create new DMs. It also flags your account automatically if your reputation is to low. Echo-chamber achieved!
  • If you use em dashes your account is flagged to the admin, more like 1984-fed
  • if you try to comment a .gif ... you fail because the code lord Rimu doesn't like it
  • Rimu has turned the block into an instance wide shadowban again without telling anyone
  • He has hardcoded which instances are allowed and which arent
  • He has hardcoded links to his ideology into the sidebar
  • He vindictively targeted a single user with code

The code review can be found here

Maybe someone should do a code review for lemmy to see how those tankies have influenced it.

[–] quinceyBones@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

All that is optional and can be turned off in Admin settings.

Not to mention you’re exaggerating a loot.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social -2 points 1 hour ago

You cannot cast a vote on PieFed if you’ve made 0 replies, 0 posts, AND your username is 8 characters long

Okay. So? This is in part anti-spam measures. It's very specific, but how many users do you imagine this applies to in practice?

When a reply is created, from anywhere, that only contains the word “this”, the comment is dropped

Piefed.social only. Toggleable off.

Every user (remote or local) has an “attitude” which is calculated as follows: (upvotes cast - downvotes cast) / (upvotes + downvotes). If your “attitude” is < 0.0 you can’t downvote. Again there is no mention of this anywhere but deep within his biased-code

Yes, this is to mitigate mass-downvoting. Why is this inherently a problem to you?

Every account has a Social Credit Score. If your account has less than 100 Social Credit Score and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do. Your Social Credit Score is calculated as upvotes earned - downvotes earned aka Reddit Karma. If your reputation is at -10 you also cannot downvote, and you can’t create new DMs. It also flags your account automatically if your reputation is to low. Echo-chamber achieved!

Trolls/spammers etc are serious problems on sites like Lemmy and Piefed. If you’re a new account and you’ve managed to get -100 reputation that quickly, it’s not a good sign. If and as the Fediverse grows, instance owners are going to need more observation tools to catch this type of stuff.

If you use em dashes your account is flagged to the admin, more like 1984-fed

AI detection tools. But I’ve seen a lot of AI posters right now caught through this. use of the em-dash is very much a sign, unfortunately. It doesn’t ban them by the way. It just flags new accounts doing it to admins. So? Admins can turn this off.

if you try to comment a .gif … you fail because the code lord Rimu doesn’t like it

Can be turned off at the instance level.

Rimu has turned the block into an instance wide shadowban again without telling anyone

No. If every instance was Piefed, you simply wouldn’t be able to reply to anyone who has blocked you. “Reply” is essentially faded out. The difference is that Lemmy doesn’t implement the block function in the same way, so Piefed just throws out replies by blocked users to the person who has blocked them coming from Lemmy. That’s the mismatch at play here.

If you can somehow still reply via a Piefed instance, it is bugged and not working as intended.

He vindictively targeted a single user with code

This has been removed now, and it wasn't "vindictive" in purpose at all.

[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 hours ago

Sounds like hell for someone with problems to put thoughts in words and/or uncommon opinions. You either go blend with the mass or die.

Also, could I use my current lemmy account to upvote my each pie comment, to get better score in few minutes? Kinda fragile for cheats.

[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Question in the PeerTube, there’s like nothing there so why? Or are you saying we need to influx what’s on there and draw more people to it? Cuz the only way to do that is promise of monetization

[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 25 points 11 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Just learned about Piefed. Why does it exist when we already have Lemmy, which alone is already too small for niche communities to pop up as-is? We don't need to fracture an already fractured community. The Piefed devs should merge the project with the Lemmy devs.

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 points 33 minutes ago

Just learned about Piefed. Why does it exist when we already have Lemmy, which alone is already too small for niche communities to pop up as-is?

Because some people had ideological differences with some of the Lemmy Devs. So instead of using the software as it's supposed to be used, and simply defederating from instances they didn't like, they went and made their own software which effectively does the same thing as Lemmy.

I guess I don't mind that there's diversity in the Fediverse ecosystem, but at the same time, I feel like the people most adamant about pushing Piefed are doing so, because they want to be in an ideological echo chamber, as opposed to actually furthering the cause of federated social media, and open-source software.

[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 17 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

In this case piefed and lemmy are basically compatible, so the communities can have a mix of the two. For example, the OP posted this with piefed, and you replied to it with presumably lemmy. So it may divide up developer effort a bit, but the community isn't divided.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Well if that's the case, then I'm fine with it being a thing. I thought they were a competing and thus incompatible platform.

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 3 points 6 hours ago

Nope that's the beauty of the Fediverse. I can reply to this from PieFed (as I'm doing now) and you can do from Lemmy.

[–] RetroLemmings@retrolemmy.com -2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Because the Lemmy devs support genocide, love Stalin, and are transphobic.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

I miss the innocent days when I thought only right-wingers could be transphobic.

[–] how_we_burned@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Can you expand on this for a newbie?

[–] RetroLemmings@retrolemmy.com 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The two devs Nutomic and Deslanies are pro-Russia anti-Ukraine tankies.

One has a GitHub where he posts all his mind numbing theory and goes on about how the Uyghurs aren’t undergoing a genocide or Tiananmen Square never happened.

The other has been caught multiple times making transphobic comments and just generally not giving a shit if transgender people are victims.

Together with some other equally bad people they make up a trio of instances commonly referred to as the “tankie triad” (lemmygrad.ml, Lemmy.ml, and Hexbear.net) where they ban everyone who says critical things about Russia/China and generally push propaganda.

[–] ButtDrugs@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

That's open source for you. The biggest issue for things gaining traction is a million projects that all do the same thing "better". Look at Linux, if people are curious about "switching to Linux" all it takes is one comment thread somewhere to confuse then enough to bail on the idea.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

That's more a community and presentation problem than a fragmentation problem. If people could agree on objective criteria for recommending Linux distros to newbies, it wouldn't be so intimidating to them.

Nobody criticizes Ford or Toyota for having "too many options" when they sell cars because they present those options as complementary and people see the variety as a good thing. Linux distros are often presented as competing products, even though for most of them that's not the case.

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[–] how_we_burned@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Literally moved yesterday from reddit when I got banned because I angrily pointed out some fascist was parroting Trump/Russian talking points. Apparently it's harassment to tell someone their wrong on a public forum

[–] hector@lemmy.today 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

...reddit is a vibrant community...something something values different viewpoints. /s

Their moderation is dishonest.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 4 hours ago

they use AI to moderate, so pretty much. and only an admin can unban someone, given how much appeals they get, they are unlikely to see 99% of appeals anyways.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Reddit has a pro-fascist problem. Calling them out will get you banned.

[–] how_we_burned@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 hours ago

Pro fascist and heavily AI moderated now.

I made two jokes using Australian colloquialisms and the system banned me twice for "threatening violence".

And you only get 200-300 characters to try and explain it.

Wtf.

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