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or "I TOTALLY SUPPORT THE ANARCHISTS DOING TERROR ATTACKS ON THE MARXIST-LENINISTS SAVING US FROM FASCISM!"
What a lack of Marxism-Leninism and historical materialism does to a mf. Literal kindergarten level leftism. These are the same people who will argue that it's the Bolsheviks ackchually who made it possible for fascists to win the Spanish civil war by repressing anarchists (no sources provided)
When someone says "destroy mass industrial production", what you should hear is "the disabled will die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make".
"Producing complex medicine like insulin is actually tankie because supply chains are authoritarian.
☝️☝️☝️🤓🤓🤓"
Edit: Or an even better deranged idealist take that I have actually seen in the wild (/gen not trolling) " We need to liberate ourselves from the oppressive concept that is time"
Any employment of machinery, except by capital, is to him an impossibility. Exploitation of the workman by the machine is therefore, with him, identical with exploitation of the machine by the workman.
we need to liberate ourselves from the oppressive concept that is time"
timekeeping is a tool of capitalist oppression and shit like not adjusting work hours like people did before electric lighting should be a crime.
Oppressive concept that is time.
The way we think about time down to precise seconds is very much a result of the oppressive structure of capitalism. I wouldn't mind going back to a time were noon was just noon and not some specific clocksignal. Time in general though? That's silly.
Also being a type-B person is like a light disability due to the way we've constructed society
"Also trans people can just go back to the old days of getting DIY hormone treatments. All of them. And diabetics will make their own insulin. And all of the large groups of people living in infertile areas, sustained by deliveries of food, will organise a mass-relocation all on their own - without mass industry of course. And people wearing glasses will just all start their own local glass-blowing workshops AND get all the materials AND also all the work for the frames AND the precision mechanics used to make proper modern glasses. None of this constitutes work by the way."
You just gave more thought into it than they ever have
"First we should come for the communists, for we are not communists."
destroy economy
destroy work
destroy mass industrial production
Boy howdy, these are some ignorant motherfuckers
Destroy mass industrial production
ah, they are a "fuck diabetic people and others who need medicine" people
I wonder if they're a Kaczynski goober. Even as a degrowth guy, I wouldn't say to destroy mass industrial production. Nationalise all of it, put it under the control of trade unions, reduce production to meet needs while trying to direct surplus low-tech production to local artisans and co-ops. Solar panels and insulin aren't coming out of the backyard steel mills. Something about that phrasing stands out to me.
In an ideal world, industrialized production would be used to give everyone 10-hour work weeks instead of massively overproducing shit at the cost of the environment to make a handful of rich fucks even richer
Regardless of morality, turning back the materialist forces of history is not possible. We cannot return to monke
People having life support systems is fascist, actually
Khmer Rouge shit.
destroy work
Never mind leftist theory, these fucks are in serious need of some goddamned thermodynamic theory, holy shit
After my revolution, nobody will exert a force over a distance
Excuse me, your blood is pumping, which is literally fascism. Don't face the wall, moving is fascism too. I can't shoot you, that would involve a force being exerted over a distance to accelerate a bullet.
"Let's do primitivism"
"Hey, wait, why are the fascists in the neighboring country industrialized and I'm not?"
I've been told that gravity is an unjust hierarchy . . .
Becoming the Anti-Spirals from first principles to own the tankies.
Abolish bed times
These people give shame to anarchists the same way ACP give shame to MLs and I bet it is all downstream from some fed ops that dried up after the soviet collapse but just became self sustained.
I don't believe that the recent "Uyghur Molotov Ribbentrop Holodomor" is self-sustained/grassroots
Deceptichud was what convinced me to stop using my .world account. Only good thing he's ever done.
destroy mass industrial production.
Weird way to out yourself as someone who hates people wearing glasses, diabetics - or anyone else needing regular doses of medicine - handicapped people, clean running water, food safety, green energy as a viable option as the main power supply, any form of reliable international/national network of infrastructure that allows travel, and I don't know what else.
Also we're burdened by nuclear power plants. Any plan for the future must involve some way of making sure none of those turn into a Chernobyl. Not to mention all the other big scary factories you can't just shut off.
With these types of "woke" ancap primitivists, always find out what their take is on age of consent laws
And have no doubt, they WILL have a take on age of consent laws
They just ripped that off of c/leftymemes' description (was meant against Dengism, I specified it since then) and are now lib-/revisio- and legit clown-posting on there 😭😭😭
"You anger then more than the fascists who actually harm them"
No @eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com, they don't. This is what I want the fash that are actually harming me to do: (cw: self-harm)
spoiler
Meanwhile the reason I don't like deceptichum is that while there's actual fash running around they're posting from AuSStralia about tankies like they're a threat on the same level as the actual fascists roaming the streets. He could actually internalize what other people are saying and I wouldn't have as much of a problem with him.
Additionally the reason people are mocking him is not just "being mad" because he spends most of his energy being dogmatic about tankies, it's because his self-stated position in that meme is "the disabled will die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make"
The position is Malthusianism but with a radical veneer.
@eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com the number of largely western "anarchists" making constant memes trashing Marxists and trying to attack "tankies" far outnumbers the number of Marxist memes attacking anarchists, on Lemmy. There is an extreme imbalance here, because Marxists are attacking fascism and liberalism far more than Marxists attack anarchism. Grad and Lemmy.ml have the odd anarchist-bashing meme here or there, but it is constant from comms like Memes of Production.
It isn't that Marxists don't have the memes, it's that we care more about attacking liberalism and fascism than anarchism. Left-unity doesn't mean letting clear bad-faith and unbacked mud-slinging go unopposed, which is why deceptichum made an entire new comm to ban all dissent from under the guise of "fighting Nazis," as to them Marxists are equivalent to Nazis. Left-Unity means discussion on differences and strategic alliance on what can be alligned on, namely opposition to imperialism and capitalism, not making things up and mud-flinging like political activism is a sport.
Yes, I am banned from deceptichum's echo chamber (for "voting while tankie"), which is why I am responding to you here, where we both can participate if you so chose.
@eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com If you shit your pants and people say "wow you shit your pants, go wash them" do you think you did something good by getting a lot of attention?
I am not one of those "You can't have the advanced supply routes needed to produce the goods of the information age under an anarchist system" type of people. I can see it being possible. I do know that without industrial production people are gonna die.
