Being a former heroin addict doesn't make someone a bad source of information, especially if they've turned their lives around.
But I agree otherwise
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Being a former heroin addict doesn't make someone a bad source of information, especially if they've turned their lives around.
But I agree otherwise
Having a worm drive your thoughts does tho..
Yeah, "from a guy with a dead worm in his brain" would make for a better question.
Fuck RFK but I will never hold being a former heroin addict against him.
Yea it's not the addiction or even the brainworms that disqualify him, it's simply his stupidity.
But you must consider the possibility that heroin and brain worms damaged his brain, contributing to the stupidity, and his own stupid choices led to those circumstances that possibly increased his stupidity. Thus he remains open to criticize on all those topics.
Stupid people are redeemable as well. But this asshole has seen the science, ignores it, and continues to spread his lies that will harm and/or kill people for political reasons...
As much as I wish this dude would immediately suffer cardiac arrest from a clogged artery, him being a former addict has nothing to do with anything, and in itself doesn’t devalue anything he says. That kind of thinking is pretty problematic, and you need to have a real hard think about the way you obviously look down on people who are recovering from addiction, cause honestly you’re being pretty shitty right now.
Mmmm, I think there's still a point to the question. Being an addict is not a moral failing; it doesn't make you less of a person. But the vast majority of people who believe in RFK also believe being an addict is reprehensible.
t's like how people ask Christians why they vote for someone who's been married x times. Personally idgaf how many times Trump has been married, I care about how many women and children he has assaulted. I don't think divorce is a moral failing; hell, I don't believe in the institution of marriage by the state. But, the very same people who hold him up also claim to believe that it should make him unworthy.
vast majority of people who believe in RFK also believe being an addict is reprehensible.
While true, they're also the segment of the population most impacted by the opioid epidemic.
There is no logistical consistency in the conservative mind, we have to stop trying to make square pegs fit into something that doesn't even have holes. These folks go with how they feel, and they adore having a health and human services leader who gives them validation for believing in magic water, essential oil and avoidance of scarrrrryyyy needles and vaccines. That's ALL they care about, nothing in his background would change that. NOTHING.
Fuck rfk, but him being a former heroin addict is probably his least worst trait.
I'm sure he was just as crazy before and during as he is after.
I'm not taking his advice, not trusting him with anything.
This administration is nothing but a bunch of ignorant narcissistic racist scared buffoons who were taken from Fox News. The people who trust him are ignorant narcissistic racist scared buffoons who watch Fox News.
It's really amazing how inept they all are.
Wtf is wrong with being a former heroin addict? I know plenty of drug users and former drug users who aren't fascist shitstains and are actually pleasant people. Also like, you're going after him for being a former addict? God forbid someone be in a bad place in life and luckily manage to recover from it... Addiction, a health condition, just morally scars you for life then? Would you say that about someone who recovered from cancer? Fuck off.
yeah the question is not phrased properly
it should be "why are the people who give former drug addicts a bunch of shit when it's convenient to them now paying attention to a former addict"
It's about the hypocrisy, not the person's past
This is honestly a disgusting take because it shows how biased you are against addicts. Not a stupid question. Just a nasty one. Your 2nd and 3rd are good questions though. I don't think there's jack shit qualifying him to give health advice in reality. He's a crackpot supplement pusher. Which I feel kinda answers your 3rd; americans have a long history of being stupid and blindly trusting whatever the pill-pusher says, because they hear what they want to hear. Unfortunately.
I hate RFK and all the damage he's done/is doing to our country's general state of health. His history of addiction is literally last on the list of reasons not to trust him. In my view, a history of addiction (now being in recovery) usually gives you a pretty sane view of health, since it brings you so close to death. The overwhelming majority of recovering addicts that I know lead healthier lifestyles than non-addicts. Oftentimes when people see with clarity how much damage they've done to themselves, they desperately want to treat their body better.
This was exactly my first thought. He should be disqualified for many reasons, but that ain't one of them. Thinking that way is why we have him.
Every Cabinet position is filled with the worst possible person for the job. This is done on purpose to make the government fail at all the things it should be doing. We knew this would happen, of course.
Take everything they say as examples of what not to do. Don't do what Donny Don't does.
If he was a progressive pro-intellectual/science ex-heroin users in an alternate timeline, would that still be a disqualifier?
This question really pushes the boundaries of the concept of "no stupid questions", but I will respect the premise and answer with all seriousness.
There is nothing about being a former anything that is automatically disqualifying.
Not everything he says is without merit. Even a blind, dumb squirrel can accidentally find a nut.
Americans aren't trusting him. He is only respected by the deluded cult members, and then only because their pedophile leader tells them to.
The people who don't realize he's full of shit are the people who can't handle being the most ignorant person in the room. They're swallowing all the bullshit that this administration spits out because it's the only way they can pretend they are better than everyone else.
It's all just corrupt, diseased minds taking advantage of other corrupt, diseased minds. If they didn't reject the compassion of their opponents, I'd have sympathy for them. However, they chose the darkness.
I've got nothing against people with former drug problems. I don't trust him because he's a doofus.
Did everyone forget he drove around with a dead animal, and dumped it into a park?
No one should listen to this insane lunatics ramblings. But the addiction is a symptom, not the problem. He likely became an addict because he was mentally ill. Or, the addiction (and brain worm, and eating random dead things) made him mentally ill.
Either way, someone with delusions shouldn't be in charge of anything.
Why are americans taking health advice from a man who got brain worms from eating roadkill and didnt learn his lesson?
Thats the more appropriate question.
Americans are not, but Republicants are.
There are SEEMINGLY UNLIMITED reasons to discredit this person and one of them is not 'addict in recovery'.
A third of the US are beyond help, beyond fucking stupid. Another third can't be arsed to do anything, they're so apathetic. One will follow without question, the other might go either way.
Also Shitler put RFK in place, so we're all forced to hear his moronic opinions...
They're not. Make no mistake, MAGA is full of a myriad of ideologies ranging from fascists, christian nationalists, white supremacists, anti vaxers, misogynists, transphobes/homophobes/terfs, pedophiles, capitalists/monopolists, incels, manosphere bros, and more.
They don't care about what they together stand for, because as a single entity? They only stand for one thing: the power to take away social and civil liberties. To fuck the public, and maximize profit and control, to MAKE us all, at home and abroad, comply.
Even amongst MAGA, RFK Jr is a joke, only a small subset of MAGA take him seriously and luckily they'll be dead of heart attacks and treatable diseases soon. What's sad is they'll have taken down so many innocents along with them. RFK Jr is there to distract the American public of the real issues with our Health Care System which is mainly affordability, access, and a competitive public option. It's not that he's even in the pocket of Big Pharma, though that is likely true. But even if he isn't, Big Pharma still benefits from his incompetency, from the sideshow he creates.
Hopefully that clears things up. Americans aren't stupid because they don't have access to the medical research and information, Americans are stupid because their pride tells them that their intuition and their echo chambers of validation make them right in spite of aforementioned research and information. That's MAGA, that's America.
Basically all of us are choosing the devils we know because we gave up on looking for angels of our better nature long ago.
Him being a former heroin addict is completely besides the point. His opinions and arguments would still be bullshit if he were the most competent medical professional in the world.
Nice ad hominem fallacy. This is at its core like saying AOC is an incompetent politician because she was a bartender once. It does not matter for the validity of their opinions.
Most of us aren’t.
The ones that are, are already so far down the rabbit hole they wouldn’t recognize reality anyway.
Being a heroin addict does not make you a bad person anymore than having diabetes. Fuck off with that moralistic shit.
The guy is a scourge of humanity because of the choices he made and beliefs he holds. Don't make it look like heroin is the cause.
Former?
As others have pointed out, being a dry addict ISN'T a reason do dismiss what someone is saying, even about health.
Being the guy whose brain worm died from mercury poisoning, though..
Americans don't trust him at all. His own large, famous family hates him with a passion, every single one of them. He was thrust upon us by professional trolls who think it's hilarious to watch people who actually care about their nation and it's citizens get upset.
...do you not understand this position isn't even elected? I'm not fucking trusting him.
It's not a reason to discount someone's views, is why. Addicts are still people, worthy of respect and dignity. The real reason to discount RFK is that he's wrong about most topics pertaining to health and he doesn't respect the science or evidence that contradict his opinions. The problem is that most of the electorate is scientifically illiterate, the end result being an over privileged dunce like RFK deciding how your health care is organised. Can't put an insurance premium on that. Good luck guys.
Even his own family members have said he is in no state of mind or health to be in any position of authority whatsoever.
As an American: I’m not. Just bc he was appointed doesn’t mean I trust him (nor did I vote for trump). The people that do believe RFJ Jr were fucking crazy conspiracy theorists to begin with
A lot of us are dumber than shit. They elected a president who is dumber than shit and he picked a secretary of health who is dumber than shit. I personally ignore everything RFK Jr. says.
Nobody is trusting him.
He’s unqualified just like everyone else Trump appoints. Why is this a surprise?
He’s not trusted by most Americans.
Heartwarming how many comments are defending sufferers of addiction in here from being lumped in with this piece of shit. Fedi remains such a breath of fresh air.
This is very much a "You don't know what you don't know" kind of situation.
I once read a case about a physicians assistant who worked under a bariatric surgeon for 15 years. After completing thousands of bariatric surgeries under the surgeon, he started his own clinic and hired a "supervising surgeon" who was retired and never there. Meaning, even though he was not a doctor, he was acting as the only surgeon. He botched botched dozens of surgeries, he caused pain and suffering to dozens of other people. He had no idea what the surgeon was doing that he wasn't, because he wasn't trained to perform that role. Instead of recognizing he couldn't do it, he just assumed he knew anything necessary.
People take that approach to a lot of things. Very common in the law for people to look something on chatgpt and get mad at their lawyer for not following completely non-sensical advice.
An avid user of drugs sounds like someone who would be knowledgeable about them, so clearly a smart choice
Why would Americans elect a serial bankruptcy business man, narcissst, and convicted sexual assault felon to appoint this loon?
Because there are no simple answers.
47 wants to disrupt and cause chaos in everything. The department of health is just another area for chaos, hence the appointment of this guy. I think it's fairly safe that most Americans - and that includes many nominal supporters of the current GOP cultish clowncar - do not take their health advise from worm brain. It's just unfortunate that he's in a position of power where he will cause harm that will prevail long after he's retired, or dead.