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It is delicious though

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[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 months ago

Unless the food is for sick people in that case regular English food is perfectly bland for them.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 13 points 4 months ago

well someone needs to stir the risotto

[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 9 points 4 months ago

As am Englishman, I am offended. The idea that I am not capable of preparing Italian food as well as a native, or that I would ever cook English cuisine in my kitchen, is outright racism.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Carbonara is delicious and its definitely not a recent invention

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm Italian, and trust me: carbonara is not more than 70 years old...

Same thing for tiramisù.

[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The original inventors of Tiramisu are still alive today.

[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I hate to break it to you but Norma Pielli died in 2015.

[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

That makes me sad.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Carbonara was invented after WWII to use surplus bacon sent as food aid from the US and primarily served to American servicemen during reconstruction.

[–] wieson@feddit.org 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's not even made with bacon, so no

[–] flanzu@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

There is an Italian historian (Alberto Grandi) that actually agrees with the POV that carbonara was invented for the american occupation and there are no source citing the recipie until the 1950s.

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 3 points 4 months ago

According to Wikipedia, with various sources, allied forces in Italy would often ask for bacon, eggs, and cheese on noodles, called "spaghetti breakfast," so Italian chefs would modify the existing recipe for "pasta cacio e uova," which was originally without meat, to feature cured pork, thus creating the original carbonara.

I didn't see anything to specifically say whether they originally used bacon as the allied forces asked, or used other more traditional forms of cured pork from the start, but now guanciale, a cured pork jowl, is considered the traditional ingredient, though bacon is a common substitute outside of Italy.

[–] whiskers165@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Italian cuisine is only good when your only frame of reference is other European foods. It's like talking about the best thing on the menu at McDonald's

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

Grabted curry of any kind is miles ahead of most european foods I have tried but Italian can be quite comforting as well. Pasta has a special place in my heart.

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 months ago

I had this one Singaporean guy visit me and say basically the same thing, and then he said there was this dish i had to try. And it just tasted like Umami The Dish™ to me.

Turns out, people typically enjoy the cuisine they grew up with and that's not wrong. To imply that it is makes you annoying.

[–] muzzle@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

The point of Italian food is not that it is the best in the world. What is nice about it is that there is a lot of variety, it can be quite healthy and most Italian people take pride in it and can cook relatively well.

[–] Melobol@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Weaponized incompetence much?

[–] taygaloocat@leminal.space -1 points 4 months ago

Does every single thing need to be an argument in your world?

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe but the English havnt yet invented it at all

[–] fakasad68@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

*DISCOVERED it all

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 months ago

This is the sort of discrimination I can support. Call the husband when you want some tea.

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

Perfectly reasonable. English food is disgusting.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

My wife can bake (more or less), but cannot cook much else to save her life. She'll default to crackers, cheese and turkey slices for every meal, maaaaybe the occasional frozen pizza, if I don't cook. Also I'm a really good cook and I like my food, so... I'm making do the cooking.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

For her, I would bring home a deep fried haggis and a Cornish pasty. Embrace our culture!

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Haggis isnt english. Its scottish

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago

Both are British though

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Centuries of cultures and nations mixing and colliding resulted in pasta. Pasta is more international than Italian.

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 1 points 4 months ago
[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago

Well, English recipes are not really the best, it's more fair to say that an US citizen of any gender don't should be in the kitchen, after seeing them adding ketchup to Spaguetti Carbonara

[–] pir8t0x@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago

I think this is the wrong place to post this. You're supposed to post this on microblogmemes@lemmy.world