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submitted 11 months ago by GregorTacTac@lemm.ee to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Are there good Microsoft word alternatives that support Linux (I don't mind closed source)? Libreoffice is meh and only office is quite good, but are there any better ones? Also, is there a way to install word on Linux using wine? When I do that my laptop just overheats and loses internet connection.

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[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

What is it with Microsoft Word that makes you prefer it to others?

  • LibreOffice and OnlyOffice are pretty much the only free software office suites that really hold a candle to Microsoft Office's functionality. LibreOffice defaults to the Toolbar interface but changing it to Tabbed will make it look like Microsoft Office. It takes some getting used to and isn't as smooth but once you start using it for a few weeks you will get used to it.
  • WPS Office is a Microsoft Office clone that works fine on Linux. It's a pretty common Microsoft Office substitute and is nearly identical in most aspects of its interface. It's made by Kingsoft, a Chinese company. The software is closed-source and there is a free version that contains advertisements.
  • Microsoft Office Online is available through your browser free of charge at portal.office.com. It contains Word, PowerPoint, and Excel but only has basic functionalities. Collaborative editing is still supported on it which you might care about.
  • Microsoft Office can be installed using WINE but in my experience, it is usually not stable enough for daily use. I would not bother with it. You should not install things manually using WINE. It's highly recommended that you use some wrapper software like Bottles, PlayOnLinux, or Lutris (common for games).
[-] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 11 months ago

Not op, but what drives me back to word (and other ms office like pp and publisher and win is:

90%: Far Superior spell and grammar and style check

10%:

Easy integration of a good tts to read my own texts to me as well as lecture for university.

Easy citavi integration

Auto complete sentences (at least in English)

superior layout presets (on click and OK and modern enough style to submit without even thinking about it) (Far superior for publisher)

[-] WhiteHotaru@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago

Have you tried languagetool? There is an integration for Libre Office, Obsidian, MS Word and others. It offers spell checking, rephrasing and is superior to the build in checker in my experience. You could compare it to DeepL versus Azure Translate.

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[-] PrimalHero@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

As someone with dyslexia, the superior spell and grammar check is what I miss most in libreOffice. I usually have to use an external tool for spell check like grammarly.

[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 3 points 11 months ago

For libreoffice, does it support change tracking and digitally signed documents with digital signature + photo of physical signature?

[-] mupan@digitalcourage.social 1 points 11 months ago

@JustEnoughDucks @NateNate60 I'm sure about the first two features: Yes. I don't know about a picture of your manual signature, unless you talk about simply embedding it in a document: That's for sure possible.

[-] semperverus@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

For me, I use the office suite at work, and one of the simplest things that makes me wish i could use it at home is that damn search bar in the top.

After that, I appreciate that libreoffice introduced the ribbon UI. I grew up with word 2003, so i know what it was like, but after they introduced the ribbon ui, it immediately felt more easy to use. Especially the style picker.

[-] Kyyrypyy@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Where doed WPS office source it's ads? I mean, if you run it in a (more or less) sandbox (well, you might want to have access to the files you're editing), and without access to internet, how does the ad interface behave?

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

I actually don't remember seeing adverts on the Linux version when I tried it out a few years ago. Maybe that's changed, or maybe they just don't run adverts on the Linux version.

Disabling WPS's Internet access will remove the advertisements. Strangely enough, the WPS blog gives instructions on how to do this in Windows.

[-] mwalimu@baraza.africa 23 points 11 months ago

Your use case matters here. Perhaps there are other specialized tools for what you want to achieve.

Why is LibreOffice “meh”? I have used it for the last 10 years and would like to know what it is you find off with it.

[-] germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 11 months ago

Not OP, but my personal (mild) meh with Libre is it’s visual style. But to be fair, I use it rarely and for those few occasions I’ve been too lazy to check if there are design alternatives (which most definitely exist, we’re on Linux after all).

[-] moomoomoo309@programming.dev 7 points 11 months ago

Try the other UI layouts, like the notebook bar. LO can look pretty close to MS office if you change the settings some.

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

It's all programmer UI, really.

Even the tabbed view was hard to use for me, especially the impossible to use "styles" box that scrolls a narrow view. I use it all the time on MS Word, and much prefer how they handle it.

Also, no CSD, so the title bar kinda just chills there, meanwhile it's used in Microsoft Word.

[-] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 11 months ago

These are 90s problems. Just open word files in o365 in chromium or Firefox.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

These are 90s problems. Just open word files in o365 in chromium or Firefox.

Compatibility with legacy files is still limited. Microsoft never achieved full compatibility between their various ports.

[-] Opafi@feddit.de 7 points 11 months ago

Yeah, but it's still pretty much as good as it gets with the original. Like, this is ms office. It opens ms office files. Even if it doesn't do it as it did twenty years ago it can be pretty much considered the way it just looks now.

[-] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

You got any way to to this offline? Else you overestimate the state if Internet in countrys like Germany

[-] Opafi@feddit.de 8 points 11 months ago

Lol. What the hell are you talking about? Internet could be better in some parts, but it's certainly fine for Web apps.

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[-] christophski@feddit.uk 9 points 11 months ago

Have you tried the different interfaces that libreoffice has? Try switching to their ribbon-like ui and see if it matches what you are looking for.

What exactly are you missing?

[-] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago
[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Dear God, anyone who doesn't already use LaTeX should not be told to use LaTeX. It's really a great departure from traditional word processors and I firmly believe that people really need to discover it on their own, or else they will just be confused and think it's an arcane, dated, and useless piece of software.

[-] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

come on :D I provided ressources to markdown, not latex. markdown is easier than word.

[-] Hominine@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Now do VIM.

[-] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

Found the "I use Arch, BTW" guy.

[-] undrwater@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Your question is likely too general for a good answer.

What do you need specifically? What makes the solutions you've tried 'meh'? What would make an office suite 'better'?

There used to be a wine-based project specifically for Microsoft office. It was called crossover office. Not sure if it's still maintained.

Good luck!

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 8 points 11 months ago

As a long-time Linux user, I feel like it says something about the maturity of desktop Linux that it is good enough now for the kinds of users that find LibreOffice insufficient.

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

What does Microsoft Word give you that OpenOffice Writer or LibreOffice Writer don't?

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[-] lal309@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

OnlyOffice is the only one that I’ve used that has a good looking UI, works out of the box and very good compatibility (across Microsoft and other document standards). Install is just one flatpak away. Highly recommend.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

I second this. I use it for university. Good software.

[-] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

You can just use the browser version of word.

[-] ChiefSinner@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

If libre/open office isn't your thing, there's always cloud based ones like office365 and google docs.

I also found this. Never heard of some of these things, so I can't really recommend them.

https://itsfoss.com/libreoffice-alternatives-linux/

You can also use ms word in wine if you're writing. However; if you're opening docs from the internet, I wouldn't recommend opening them up in anything running in wine. Remember, wine is a windows emulator based on windows 2000.

[-] c10l@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Wine is not a Windows emulator. The name literally means “Wine Is Not an Emulator”.

It’s also not based on Windows 2000. In fact, it started out translating syscalls from Windows 3.1.

The syscalls themselves are pretty stable between Windows versions, which is why you can run a Windows XP application on Windows 11 without recompiling it, as long as it’s for the same architecture.

[-] westyvw@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Really trying to understand what "meh" means in terms of office software.

They all are kinda meh. I dont get overly excited with office stuff do you?

Over the years I have used both Libre and ms office. Some use cases were so much better with Libre. Now days it's kind of a wash really. You write words or you calculate cells. If you are calculating any large amount of cells do your self a favor and get it into a database.

And if it's a presentation, reveal.js is miles better than PowerPoint.

[-] MOUCHE_A_MERDE@jlai.lu 2 points 11 months ago

has i undestand meh is better that fuu but less good that okay

[-] Helix@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago

Use the online version of Word if you want Word. If you want the desktop version use an older one, the Office 365 ones don't really work on Linux.

Why is LibreOffice 'meh'?

[-] glennglog22@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

Micro***t 🤮

[-] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago

If you really want word, you could try Microsoft 365, where its in your browser instead of a thing you download.

[-] Goldmaster@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

I did a look into this. softmaker is best when it comes to compatibility of displaying files. Wps office is ok, but some text would be on top of others. I did find that there is a free version of softmaker, which should be ok.

[-] skilltheamps@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

There's softmaker office, it's from a german company: https://www.softmaker.com/en/products/softmaker-office

[-] efscher@lemmy.nyc.what.if.ua 1 points 11 months ago

WPS Office and FreeOffice. Each with their own caveats, but one just might work for you.

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