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Because I sure as shit am, god bless our anti corporate anti syndicate friend Bill Watterson and his steadfast refusal to turn C&H into a cash cow juggernaut that would have dwarfed Garfield and been twice as syrupy in the end.

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[–] duderium@hexbear.net 1 points 5 years ago (1 children)

I was a big fan as a kid and have spent the last few years re-reading the strip with my own kids. As a kid, I empathized with Calvin; as an adult, I empathize with his parents and even with his teachers. All of them are interesting characters, and the artistic style is spectacular. I think that Watterson mostly critiques consumerism rather than capitalism itself, but that critique can lead toward radical politics. I know that people on the Jordan Peterson subreddit are also fond of Calvin and Hobbes and quote the strip's general intolerance of whiny liberals, however. They don't seem to notice that everyone in the strip is increasingly furious with almost every aspect of the society that surrounds them.

It's interesting, too, that Calvin's ultimate goal is just to be free to relax against a tree and read books. He's so alienated from the rest of the world—and who can blame him?—that he has little if any care for anyone else's troubles, even though they must be far more severe than his own. As a bullied middle class white boy growing up in the '90s in suburban Ohio, Calvin is sadly ripe fodder for the alt right and could easily grow up into a fascist waving the thin blue line flag alongside Moe, the cop—while Suzie Derkins is on the path to becoming Hillary Clinton, Mark 2. It's not the only possible future for these characters, but it's definitely one of them.

[–] gayhobbes@hexbear.net 1 points 5 years ago (1 children)

I think it's because I also identified really strongly with Calvin but I always thought he'd turn out gay, which should hopefully save him from chudhood. That's one of many reasons I dislike fan works that imagined him marrying Susie Derkins. She would probably stay in Ohio and run for governor, while Calvin would probably move to New York or LA and be an artist or general weird bohemian dude.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 1 points 5 years ago (1 children)

Sadly, being gay does not automatically inoculate one from fascism.

[–] gayhobbes@hexbear.net 1 points 5 years ago

True I just assume he’d have turned out like me

[–] Wisp@hexbear.net 1 points 5 years ago

Shout out to a professor I had that didn’t fail me for making my report about Hobbes 90% references to Calvin and Hobbes

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 1 points 5 years ago (1 children)

I read like all of them, my older brother had a whole bunch of collections of them. That and The Far Side were my jam growing up.

I think one of my favorite things was how the author explained Hobbes. He said he got asked a lot whether Hobbes was just Calvin playing pretend, or whether he was a magical toy that came to life when only Calvin was around. His answer (iirc) was that it was neither was correct and it was just a matter of different perspectives, sometimes you see Hobbes through Calvin's eyes, sometimes you see him through his parents' eyes, and that's all there is to that. You really got the sense that he respected kids and saw them as people, which means a lot to a kid.

Anyway that was the moment I became a post-modern neo-Marxist intent on destroying Western civilization by abolishing the concept of objective truth, or whatever it is we do here.

[–] gayhobbes@hexbear.net 1 points 5 years ago

You really got the sense that he respected kids and saw them as people, which means a lot to a kid.

It's why I was drawn to the comics in the first place. I don't think I've ever seen a depiction of childhood before or since that nails what being a kid is really about--being bored, being scared, being ignored, never taken seriously, and always trying to participate in the world but understanding little of it, being wrested out of reverie by obligations foisted upon you constantly. What really blows my mind is that Bill Watterson didn't even have a kid until after he finished the comic. His child is very lucky to have a great dad.

[–] PermaculturalMarxist@hexbear.net 0 points 5 years ago (1 children)

I always thought your username was Hobbes like Thomas Hobbes the author of Leviathan as a kind of bit but this makes sense

[–] gayhobbes@hexbear.net 1 points 5 years ago

lmao god no thank you

[–] PartyMonster@hexbear.net 0 points 5 years ago* (last edited 5 years ago) (1 children)

This means nothing to me as a zoomer.

just googled it. These comics are like if charlie brown did adderal and hung out with a furry. That's cool I guess.

[–] gayhobbes@hexbear.net 1 points 5 years ago

Oh, Charles Schulz wishes he could be as good as Calvin and Hobbes. Let me give you the kind of shit the paper was just blithely publishing here

I rarely make intergenerational recommendations but C&H is timeless and you will love it. Also Hobbes is just an actual tiger.