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[–] EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I've said this before, but Canada needs to start manufacturing drones. Like yesterday. Put the factories far from the border.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 2 points 39 minutes ago

The United States can't manufacture shit so yeah, Canada should step up and prepare.

[–] KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Unlike with Greenland, U.S. officials say Trump isn’t trying to annex Canada. Instead, he aims to partner with Prime Minister Mark Carney to shore up the country’s defenses

Does anyone else think these threats against Greenland -- and earlier, Canada -- might be intended to spur increases in other nations' defense spending? If Trump pushes all of Western Europe and Canada buying billions of dollars of military gear (through threats or "partnerships") most of that funding is going to defense contractors in the USA.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I doubt Trump realizes or intends that, because his brain is basically pudding, but it's possible his handlers/donors in the military complex are pushing for it.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 16 hours ago

The rest of NATO needs to step up and make a military exercise off the coast of Canada as a show of force that it shouldn't be messed around with even among allies.

[–] Raul@europe.pub 6 points 16 hours ago

All the Greenland story is about Canada mostly IMO.

[–] beanie@lemmy.ca 9 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Read the article, people.

He’s actually taking a much softer stance on Canada, and that’s worth paying attention to.

Oh, I’m not saying he has benevolent intentions toward Canada, lol.

But he’s not looking to get us particularly riled either.

One, he wants to keep tensions with Europe away from his border.

Two, he is deathly afraid that real Americans that haven’t drunk his kool-aid will have a place to flee, regroup and fight.

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Yeah and to be honest we DO need to do more to protect the Arctic. We just also need to protect ourselves form the jackasses south of the border.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 21 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (8 children)

Canada needs to put the Gripen factory on an accelerated track, cancel the entire F-35 order, and move ahead with an immediate purchase of min. 50 Gripens using the F-35 funds to cover the gap and train up pilots until Gripens start rolling out of the factory.

Canada’s complete F-35 promise will cost the country $28,000,000,000 ($28B) with billions more needed to bring them up to full operational efficiency, and yet the Gripen costs only $65,000,000 ($65M) per aircraft, allowing us to buy 430 fully-functional Gripen jets instead of 88 partially functional F-35 jets.

Remember: tech superiority does not win battles. Sheer numbers do. WWII demonstrated this overwhelmingly on many different fronts, with many different technologies.

As just one example, the Germans had Tiger tanks that could face off against 6-8 Shermans at a time and win with barely a scratch on their hull, but when 10, 20, or even more came roaring over the hilltop for every Tiger that was fielded, their tech superiority ended being absolutely useless. They got overrun and overwhelmed with sheer numbers.

The F35 can be rendered equally as useless with enough Gripens in the air.

And the Gripens don’t come with a remote kill switch like the F-35 does.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Both are waste of time and money. US has over 2000 fighter jets. In hand.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

So? They are attacking Venezuela, Iran (it’s coming), Greenland (ie NATO), AND Canada - they will be stretched too thin and are run by incompetents. The rest of the world dumps the dollar and Us treasury bonds, the dollar is no longer the reserve currency for oil, and they are kneecapped. We do that and disrupt their supply chains and a big part of the problem is solved.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

US has over 2000 fighter jets. In hand.

And they can't deploy them all at the same time on the same target, unless they risk being vulnerable elsewhere

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

The objective is not to win. Winning against America’s imperial might is impossible.

The objective is to make them bleed as much as possible. To make victory as phyrric and as painful for them as possible. And when going up against the most expensive war plane in human history, this means choosing the aircraft that can get as technologically close as possible with as many units as possible on a per-dollar-spent basis.

We can make them bleed much more with 420 fully-functional Gripens than we can with 88 partially-functional F-35s that can be remotely shut down against our will.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

The US always wins the invasion but pretty much always loses the occupation.

Air power isn't how you win, because it's hard to hide a jet fighter. Assault rifles, RPGs, IEDs and a willingness to fight longer than they're willing to is what's needed to win the occupation.

Americans forget that Canadians served in Afghanistan. But I don't. I know someone who diffused IEDs over there, pretty sure he knows how to build them if needed.

[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Agree with everything you say, and yes quantity has a quality of its own, but I think that in addition we should fly the Gripens and the F35s that we have against each other and figure out how to beat the F35s with the Gripens. Then share that info with our new allies. If we need to modify or augment the Gripens then we can work with the Swedes to do that.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago

We can already figure much of that out from the technological specifications of the F-35. Simply looking at the capabilities can give us strong clues on how to neuter or at least limit the inherent F-35 advantages from a tech standpoint.

The rest of that comes down to how the pilot behaves, and what tactics they have been trained in. And this is where differences in training, corps attitudes, and even pilot personalities can dramatically affect performance.

And while I fully agree with you in regards to pilot training, our problem is that a Canadian fighter pilot is likely to behave (tactic chain, decision trees, emotional responses, etc.) considerably differently than an American fighter pilot. As such, while we need to train our pilots in Gripen jets against F-35 jets in combat-like scenarios, we need to do so against American pilots, not Canadian ones.

And that’s the tough part - how do we get the American administration to willingly play along with activities that are obviously meant to train our pilots to fight theirs, and gain a consistent toehold against pilots in F-35s even if it means losing a few Gripens for every one of their F-35s. It needs to be done with a great deal of subtlety and subterfuge.

[–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Competent pilots cost too. We need to invest in unmanned capabilities much more. All humans should just be behind their desks fighting a war remotely from Hawaii or something

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That's a funny Canadian place.

[–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 2 points 20 hours ago

Ikr. It's a tropical island in canada

[–] thirstyhyena@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Canada and EU really need to reconsider their option on this.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

canada are you still visiting DISNEY, florida, dont.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Boycott US products and services in general too. Switch your online accounts to non-US companies. If you have investments, pull them out of the USA.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

For the Canadians : shop app is a part of shopify to replace Amazon. Plus you can filter it to Canadian only. Canadian tire is like Amazon but in RL.

Petrocan

Go Canada computers instead of best buy

Gem

Kobo instead of kindle or audible.

Where you can’t find a Canadian substitute for American: get a European one. They are usually way better quality than American anyways. Better standards

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[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Lmao, straight up he’s got no fucking attention span or patience. He’s just going in circles pushing on issues, trying to find one that will budge with just mean words rather than having to spend money or do anything material.

He wants some sort of “win” something concrete he can point to and say “look how much we’re winning” because his poll numbers are in the toilet. He’s surrounded him self with incompetent yes men who keep failing to give him meaningful results, and he’s terrified of losing the house and senate in 11 months.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Close

The

Border

Shut the lights off. Stop the oil. Sell the bonds.

Time to pull that bandaid off.

[–] keyhoh@piefed.social 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would say stop selling the potash so there's a famine. The one thing that causes all dictators to be overthrown from within, is a couple missed meals in a row. The whole world should get Americans to fight America by shutting then off from sustenance until the mess they created is cleaned.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Something something Epstein files

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

something something putin and epsteinfile/pee tapes over krasnov.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It feels like the world is in a late game stage of Civilization and the most recent hotseat player is just fed up with the grind and feels like nuking something.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He's a Russian asset. He's trying to destabilize the US as well as NATO, and our other allies. The more time we spend on infighting, the less likely we'll be to stand up to our enemies

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If he’s not a Russian agent, I don’t see how an actual one could do a better job destabilizing the US and NATO than he is.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

its either him, or thier backup agents in the gop, and of course TULSI gabbard.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

pretty obvious hes using all the russian talking points too.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess he's going to annex every ally at this point. Make America NATO Again!

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[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just shut the fuck up already. We’re all done with you.

[–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

and the US isn't getting a pass when this is over. maybe in a few generations IF they hold the fascists to account and implement systemic change.

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

40% of Americans are all in on this shit, with another 10% undecided, fuck that country

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